1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,409 [RED PRYSOCK, "HAND CLAPPIN'] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,640 ANNOUNCER: And here it is, Alan Freed's Rock and Roll Party. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,530 And here he is in person, Alan Freed. 6 00:00:17,772 --> 00:00:18,980 ALAN FREED: Hello, everybody. 7 00:00:18,980 --> 00:00:19,563 How are y'all? 8 00:00:19,563 --> 00:00:22,200 Welcome to our Rock and Roll Jubilee of Stars. 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,640 And here we go to rockin'. 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,760 KENNY VANCE: When I was a kid, I remember 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,800 hearing Alan Freed on the radio, and he 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,000 announced that he was having a rock and roll show. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,280 No one knew what that was. 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,560 And I took the subway to the Brooklyn Paramount, 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,560 and there were thousands and thousands 16 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,010 of people waiting on line. 17 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:46,246 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 18 00:00:46,246 --> 00:00:49,683 [CHATTER] 19 00:00:50,665 --> 00:00:54,102 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,820 And when that show started, it was the most unbelievable thing 21 00:01:01,820 --> 00:01:03,330 I'd ever seen in my life. 22 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:07,030 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 23 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:13,010 Everybody could sing their ass off. 24 00:01:13,010 --> 00:01:15,148 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 25 00:01:17,020 --> 00:01:20,940 Things just shot off that stage, and entered my heart, 26 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:23,310 and have stayed with me for the rest of my life. 27 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:25,830 [MUSIC FADING] 28 00:01:27,620 --> 00:01:29,200 MAN 1: One, check. 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,240 One, key, check, check. 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,780 [GUITAR RIFFING] 31 00:01:34,780 --> 00:01:37,860 We added like three and, like-- 32 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:40,200 I have the Polk master set at the same thing. 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,820 [CHATTER] 34 00:01:43,820 --> 00:01:45,600 MAN 1: Do whatever you want. 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,726 [MUMBLING] 36 00:01:47,726 --> 00:01:48,660 MAN 1: Mack. 37 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:49,460 MAN 2: Hello. 38 00:01:49,460 --> 00:01:51,206 What did you do with your jacket? 39 00:01:51,206 --> 00:01:51,912 Let's see. 40 00:01:51,912 --> 00:01:52,620 You can't see it. 41 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:53,880 The lap of luxury. 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,620 That's right. 43 00:01:54,620 --> 00:01:56,220 You can see how it's set up back here. 44 00:01:56,220 --> 00:01:57,000 Oh, man. 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:57,762 Look who's here. 46 00:01:57,762 --> 00:01:58,970 MAN 1: Is this rock and roll? 47 00:01:58,970 --> 00:02:00,410 It is now. 48 00:02:00,410 --> 00:02:02,330 It just became rock and roll. 49 00:02:02,330 --> 00:02:04,710 It's not rock and roll as people know it anyway, 50 00:02:04,710 --> 00:02:07,350 right, as most people know it? 51 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:08,997 I don't know what this is. 52 00:02:08,997 --> 00:02:09,830 MAN 1: I don't know. 53 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:12,210 We're keeping something going. 54 00:02:12,210 --> 00:02:16,170 (SINGING) Oh darling, oh, darling 55 00:02:16,170 --> 00:02:18,572 Oh, oh, oh my darling. 56 00:02:18,572 --> 00:02:19,780 Anybody here from Brooklyn? 57 00:02:19,780 --> 00:02:23,512 [CROWD CHEERING] 58 00:02:27,157 --> 00:02:30,850 You know, when I was a kid, I remember 59 00:02:30,850 --> 00:02:36,232 seeing James Sheppard and The Heartbeats, Pookie Hudson 60 00:02:36,232 --> 00:02:36,940 and the Spaniels. 61 00:02:39,730 --> 00:02:42,952 I saw The Turbans there with those yellow suits. 62 00:02:42,952 --> 00:02:44,410 AUDIENCE MEMBER: "Congratulations"! 63 00:02:44,410 --> 00:02:48,410 Yeah, congratulations. 64 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:53,690 (SINGING) Congratulations on your new love affair 65 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:56,980 You have my best wishes 66 00:02:56,980 --> 00:02:59,330 (SPEAKING) "Congratulations" by The Turbans, 67 00:02:59,330 --> 00:03:00,940 the follow up to "When You Dance." 68 00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:04,713 [MUSIC PLAYING] 69 00:03:06,670 --> 00:03:08,590 I'm basically stalling for time now, 70 00:03:08,590 --> 00:03:10,885 because I gotta hit this very high note. 71 00:03:10,885 --> 00:03:13,855 [LAUGHTER] 72 00:03:13,855 --> 00:03:17,320 [APPLAUSE] 73 00:03:22,765 --> 00:03:26,230 [VOCALIZING] 74 00:03:31,090 --> 00:03:33,590 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): There's nothing better than playing 75 00:03:33,590 --> 00:03:36,070 music that you love-- 76 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:39,790 the spirit of it, the passion of it. 77 00:03:39,790 --> 00:03:42,694 It fills you up from the inside. 78 00:03:42,694 --> 00:03:46,630 [THE MOONGLOWS, "SINCERELY"] 79 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:52,790 We've carried these songs with us through the years. 80 00:03:52,790 --> 00:03:54,920 (SINGING) Sincerely 81 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,828 They live inside of us. 82 00:03:56,828 --> 00:04:00,580 (SINGING) Oh, yeah 83 00:04:00,580 --> 00:04:03,660 This is where it all started. 84 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:08,940 It's the music of the unsung heroes of rock and roll. 85 00:04:08,940 --> 00:04:12,780 (SINGING) Please say you'll be mine. 86 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:14,840 [VOCALIZING] 87 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:19,000 It's Kenny. 88 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Listen, I just got off the exit. 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,340 I'll be-- I'll be there as soon as I can. 90 00:04:24,340 --> 00:04:29,220 Are you going to play some Jay and the Americans stuff or what? 91 00:04:29,220 --> 00:04:30,320 Waiting for me to come? 92 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:30,820 OK. 93 00:04:30,820 --> 00:04:33,660 I got "Wisdom of a Fool" with me. 94 00:04:33,660 --> 00:04:35,100 I got the guitar. 95 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:39,140 I learned "She Cried," and we could do "This Is It," 96 00:04:39,140 --> 00:04:41,865 and we could have a ball. 97 00:04:41,865 --> 00:04:43,290 OK, see you later. 98 00:04:43,290 --> 00:04:45,770 [MUSIC FADING] 99 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,040 ANNOUNCER (ON RADIO): Now, now, now, back to Friday Night 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,240 Doo-Wop with Rick McCaffrey and the Solid Gold Jukebox. 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,120 DJ (ON RADIO): And this is Oldies 97. 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,307 We have three of the four original members 103 00:04:58,307 --> 00:05:00,140 of Jay and the Americans here in the studio. 104 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:02,140 We're expecting Kenny Vance any minute. 105 00:05:02,140 --> 00:05:05,040 We are really super excited about having 106 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Jay Traynor and the Americans here, 107 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,760 40 years of the anniversary of She 108 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,920 Cried, number two record in America. 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,868 I haven't been able to sleep for days. 110 00:05:13,868 --> 00:05:15,326 SANDY DEANNE (ON RADIO): Get a life 111 00:05:15,326 --> 00:05:17,290 DJ (ON RADIO): OK, Sandy. 112 00:05:17,290 --> 00:05:18,540 We had a request for this one. 113 00:05:18,540 --> 00:05:22,920 [THE CLEFTONES, "HEART AND SOUL"] Heart and soul 114 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,440 I fell in love with you 115 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,280 Heart and soul 116 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:31,760 The way a fool would do 117 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:38,738 Madly because you held me tight 118 00:05:38,738 --> 00:05:39,280 Held me tight 119 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:40,010 Held me tight 120 00:05:40,010 --> 00:05:40,880 Held me tight 121 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,590 Held me tight 122 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:42,520 Held me tight 123 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Held me tight 124 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,160 Held me tight 125 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,180 And stole a kiss 126 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:45,720 Stole a kiss 127 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,600 There in the night 128 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,430 Heart and soul 129 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:56,550 I beg to be adored 130 00:05:56,550 --> 00:06:02,350 Yes, and I lost control and tumbled overboard 131 00:06:02,350 --> 00:06:09,060 Gladly that magic night we kissed 132 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:09,780 That we kissed 133 00:06:09,780 --> 00:06:10,530 Oh, we kissed 134 00:06:10,530 --> 00:06:11,230 That we kissed 135 00:06:11,230 --> 00:06:12,130 Oh, we kissed 136 00:06:12,130 --> 00:06:13,110 Oh, we kissed 137 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:13,870 That we kissed 138 00:06:13,870 --> 00:06:14,750 Oh, we kissed 139 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:15,590 That we kissed 140 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:16,710 Oh, we kissed 141 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:19,390 WOMAN (ON PHONE): [SQUEALING] 142 00:06:19,390 --> 00:06:20,570 MAN: Hold on just a second. 143 00:06:20,570 --> 00:06:21,590 WOMAN (ON PHONE): Oh. 144 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:23,690 DJ: After this song, you can talk to Jay Traynor. 145 00:06:23,690 --> 00:06:25,610 WOMAN (ON PHONE): I'm so excited. 146 00:06:25,610 --> 00:06:26,610 OK, how are you doing? 147 00:06:26,610 --> 00:06:27,450 He looks good, right? 148 00:06:27,450 --> 00:06:27,950 Yeah. 149 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:28,570 Sure. 150 00:06:28,570 --> 00:06:29,910 Think about it. 151 00:06:29,910 --> 00:06:31,070 What's happening? 152 00:06:31,070 --> 00:06:32,230 Gary, nice jacket. 153 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:32,730 Thank you. 154 00:06:32,730 --> 00:06:33,760 I got it from the-- 155 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,570 Sharp, man. 156 00:06:34,570 --> 00:06:37,870 How would you feel about doing "She Cried" live? 157 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:41,070 We haven't even seen each other in a while. 158 00:06:41,070 --> 00:06:42,250 I mean, I'm not-- 159 00:06:42,250 --> 00:06:46,670 I'm trying to think we could do maybe something simple. 160 00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:48,930 I don't know, whatever you want to do. 161 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:53,090 To me, the really great group record is the follow up to She 162 00:06:53,090 --> 00:06:54,470 Cried, which is This is It. 163 00:06:54,470 --> 00:06:54,970 Uh huh. 164 00:06:54,970 --> 00:06:56,450 JAY TRAYNOR: I listen to it, and I'm taken back 165 00:06:56,450 --> 00:06:57,647 by the drumming on it. 166 00:06:57,647 --> 00:06:58,730 I think it's Gary Chester. 167 00:06:58,730 --> 00:06:59,350 KENNY VANCE: Gary Chester. 168 00:06:59,350 --> 00:07:00,790 You gotta hear the way this guy kicks on this thing. 169 00:07:00,790 --> 00:07:01,957 I mean, it's such a-- 170 00:07:01,957 --> 00:07:02,790 like a drum machine. 171 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:03,680 He's unbelievable. 172 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,430 DJ: Let's play it. 173 00:07:04,430 --> 00:07:05,010 Let's play it. 174 00:07:05,010 --> 00:07:05,170 KENNY VANCE: Great. 175 00:07:05,170 --> 00:07:05,390 SANDY DEANNE: Let's go. 176 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:07,057 This is the Friday Night Doo-Wop Show. 177 00:07:07,057 --> 00:07:10,130 We are featuring the 40th anniversary reunion 178 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:12,620 of the original Jay and the Americans here tonight. 179 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:17,130 [JAY AND THE AMERICANS, "THIS IS IT FOR ME"] Ah, ah, ah, ooh 180 00:07:17,130 --> 00:07:27,130 (SINGING) She doesn't love me anymore 181 00:07:27,290 --> 00:07:30,162 She doesn't want my kisses 182 00:07:30,162 --> 00:07:30,870 KENNY VANCE: Wow. 183 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:31,530 DJ: Great song. 184 00:07:31,530 --> 00:07:39,238 (SINGING) I know that this is it for me 185 00:07:39,238 --> 00:07:41,530 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): It's amazing seeing these guys 186 00:07:41,530 --> 00:07:46,840 that I harmonized with in my mother's basement when I was 16. 187 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,920 When we started, we were basically 188 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:55,720 a doo-wop group emulating music that we heard on the radio, just 189 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,230 guys from the neighborhood that kept having hit records. 190 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,800 (SINGING) This is it 191 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,200 (SINGING) And I know I know 192 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,686 This is it 193 00:08:09,686 --> 00:08:12,200 That this is it for me 194 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,800 DJ: Oldies 97. 195 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,100 I tell you, you guys got-- 196 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:16,500 you guys got real potential. 197 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:17,000 Woo! 198 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,480 No, you know, in those days, the way groups started were-- 199 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,760 none of us really knew any music. 200 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,680 So if you were lucky enough to have 201 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,000 three guys on three different notes instead 202 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,020 of all the guys on the same note-- 203 00:08:33,020 --> 00:08:36,320 if three guys hit three different notes, 204 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,840 it was immediate eye contact. 205 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,370 And the next day, we bought suits and took pictures. 206 00:08:42,370 --> 00:08:44,520 [LAUGHTER] 207 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,300 MAN: That's true. 208 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:47,740 (SINGING) Where I come from the folks are poor 209 00:08:47,740 --> 00:08:50,120 But rich in loving, that's for sure 210 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,126 In my neighborhood 211 00:08:53,126 --> 00:08:58,180 In my neighborhood 212 00:08:58,180 --> 00:09:01,500 No fancy things, no fancy car 213 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:06,774 Things we own are the movie stars in my neighborhood 214 00:09:06,774 --> 00:09:09,500 [THE JIVE FIVE, "WHAT TIME IS IT?"] 215 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:13,620 (SINGING) Tick tock listen to the bop bop 216 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:16,840 Tick tock listen to the clock 217 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,000 What time is it? 218 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,100 Listen to the clock 219 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:24,060 I've just got to know 220 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:26,200 What time is it? 221 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,460 It's 8 o'clock 222 00:09:28,460 --> 00:09:31,660 Now I'm at her door 223 00:09:31,660 --> 00:09:37,377 And my heart is beating fast. 224 00:09:37,377 --> 00:09:37,960 Go straight. 225 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:38,460 Go straight. 226 00:09:38,460 --> 00:09:40,500 Go straight. 227 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:44,590 We're gonna take this here straight out. 228 00:09:47,150 --> 00:09:50,450 (SINGING) What time is it? 229 00:09:50,450 --> 00:09:52,970 It's time-- 230 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:56,330 Yeah, the projects here, they used to have a lot-- 231 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:58,120 a lot of dances right there in the park. 232 00:10:00,690 --> 00:10:04,010 This is the Kingsborough Projects. 233 00:10:04,010 --> 00:10:06,290 And down here, this is where The Rocket 234 00:10:06,290 --> 00:10:12,650 Tones and The Jesters that came out of these projects down here. 235 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:14,130 We used to come down here. 236 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:17,890 They had, like, the battle of the groups. 237 00:10:17,890 --> 00:10:22,370 And The Jive Five, we used to come over to party. 238 00:10:22,370 --> 00:10:23,890 Yeah. 239 00:10:23,890 --> 00:10:25,390 That's the only time they let us in, 240 00:10:25,390 --> 00:10:27,850 because all the girls would come out-- 241 00:10:27,850 --> 00:10:30,730 come out to hear The Jive Five singing in the hallway. 242 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:35,450 (SINGING) Never, never, never 243 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:38,010 Those were good days, a lot of fun. 244 00:10:38,010 --> 00:10:41,470 (SINGING) Oh never, never, never 245 00:10:41,470 --> 00:10:46,070 Because I love you so 246 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:47,510 And you know 247 00:10:47,510 --> 00:10:51,670 Norman Johnson, who used to live on Myrtle Avenue, 248 00:10:51,670 --> 00:10:53,270 Richard Harris, who used to live right 249 00:10:53,270 --> 00:10:56,390 here on Hart Street, number 7. 250 00:10:56,390 --> 00:10:59,445 Jerome Hanna used to live down here on Pulaski Street. 251 00:10:59,445 --> 00:11:00,070 He was Lucky? 252 00:11:00,070 --> 00:11:01,190 Yeah, Lucky. 253 00:11:01,190 --> 00:11:05,030 And me, Eugene Pitt, and Billy Prophet on Myrtle Avenue. 254 00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:09,350 Then we had The Persuasions in this area. 255 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:12,990 We had The Strangers in this neighborhood. 256 00:11:12,990 --> 00:11:15,690 Little Anthony might come from down the projects. 257 00:11:15,690 --> 00:11:18,910 They were down Fort Green Park. 258 00:11:18,910 --> 00:11:21,590 And at night, you know, when it was quiet, 259 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:22,670 you can hear harmonies. 260 00:11:22,670 --> 00:11:24,150 You know, like the-- 261 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:26,390 You'd hear it in the air. 262 00:11:26,390 --> 00:11:27,847 Hear it in the air. 263 00:11:27,847 --> 00:11:29,430 Where the guys singing from, you know? 264 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:32,530 You would go over on the side where they were singing. 265 00:11:32,530 --> 00:11:34,038 Hey, you let us hit one. 266 00:11:34,038 --> 00:11:34,830 KENNY VANCE: Right. 267 00:11:34,830 --> 00:11:38,050 And then our group, we'd start singing. 268 00:11:38,050 --> 00:11:41,210 One of the girls might like ours better. 269 00:11:41,210 --> 00:11:45,970 It was always like a battle to impress the girls-- 270 00:11:45,970 --> 00:11:46,750 a lot of fun. 271 00:11:46,750 --> 00:11:48,490 Are we still trying to do that? 272 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:50,050 Well, now, no. 273 00:11:50,050 --> 00:11:52,030 No. 274 00:11:52,030 --> 00:11:52,530 No. 275 00:11:52,530 --> 00:11:53,450 No way, huh? 276 00:11:53,450 --> 00:11:54,010 No. 277 00:11:54,010 --> 00:11:56,052 WALLY ROKER: This is one of our plaid situations. 278 00:11:56,052 --> 00:11:58,130 [LAUGHTER] 279 00:11:58,130 --> 00:11:59,850 KENNY VANCE: Here's Wally. 280 00:11:59,850 --> 00:12:01,890 These are killers, man. 281 00:12:01,890 --> 00:12:03,490 How old were you? 282 00:12:03,490 --> 00:12:04,180 About 17. 283 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:05,263 KENNY VANCE: Unbelievable. 284 00:12:05,263 --> 00:12:15,263 [THE HEARTBEATS, "YOUR WAY"] You always will remember 285 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:22,710 You never will forget 286 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:25,650 Do, do, do, do, do 287 00:12:25,650 --> 00:12:32,530 The one that you love, yes 288 00:12:32,530 --> 00:12:36,730 Now that she's gone 289 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:40,280 WALLY ROKER: Vernon, Crump, and Robbie 290 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,400 were always harmonizing from the time 291 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,240 they were 12 or 13 years old. 292 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,440 Vernon was the baritone. 293 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Robbie was the second tenor. 294 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,880 And Crump was the first tenor. 295 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,440 We met at Woodrow Wilson High School. 296 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,920 They were looking for a bass singer. 297 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,250 I'd never sang in a group before. 298 00:12:59,250 --> 00:13:02,680 (SINGING) You go your way 299 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:07,000 My voice made it complete, as far as the four-part harmony. 300 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,960 And we started looking for somebody that 301 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,610 was really a lead, lead singer. 302 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:14,800 (SINGING) Away, away, away 303 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,560 We picked up Shep after we were together for about a year. 304 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:22,932 And we rehearsed basically 24/7 every day. 305 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:23,890 Every day we rehearsed. 306 00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:31,040 [EMERALDS, "YOU'RE DRIVING ME CRAZY"] You're driving me crazy 307 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,765 Oh, my darling where have you been? 308 00:13:35,765 --> 00:13:37,140 KENNY VANCE: I know what it feels 309 00:13:37,140 --> 00:13:39,340 like to be part of a group. 310 00:13:39,340 --> 00:13:42,260 There's something special about it. 311 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:43,180 When you guys were-- 312 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:44,860 Especially when you're on. 313 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:47,860 Everybody's always nervous and waiting for the note 314 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:49,740 to come down. 315 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:52,900 Once the note comes down, and you can feel it-- 316 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:56,780 feel the vibration of the harmony being at its best, 317 00:13:56,780 --> 00:14:00,420 and you're getting out the tones and the sounds, 318 00:14:00,420 --> 00:14:02,620 it's just outrageous. 319 00:14:02,620 --> 00:14:04,260 There's nothing like it. 320 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:08,500 Because it's 100% pure music. 321 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:13,820 The purest you can get is human voices. 322 00:14:13,820 --> 00:14:17,448 And you could cry based on just certain melodies. 323 00:14:17,448 --> 00:14:20,380 (SINGING) For you 324 00:14:20,380 --> 00:14:22,760 Crazy for you 325 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,420 KENNY VANCE: I remember hearing The Heartbeats on the radio. 326 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:27,720 Alan Freed on Saturday had the countdown, 327 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,788 and you guys were always right up there. 328 00:14:29,788 --> 00:14:30,580 WALLY ROKER: Right. 329 00:14:30,580 --> 00:14:34,140 KENNY VANCE: For me, as a kid, the sound of The Heartbeats 330 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:35,810 made me crazy. 331 00:14:35,810 --> 00:14:38,370 And I went to the Brooklyn Paramount, 332 00:14:38,370 --> 00:14:42,530 and one of the names on the marquee is The Heartbeats. 333 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:45,770 The curtain went up, and we had Sam the Man Taylor 334 00:14:45,770 --> 00:14:47,770 and Big Al Sears, Panama Francis. 335 00:14:47,770 --> 00:14:49,350 WALL ROKER: [VOCALIZING] 336 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:50,390 How'd it go? 337 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:53,390 [VOCALIZING] 338 00:14:53,390 --> 00:14:57,572 [SAXOPHONE PLAYING] 339 00:15:00,830 --> 00:15:03,330 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): Seeing Alan Freed coming out there, 340 00:15:03,330 --> 00:15:05,080 it was like larger than life. 341 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:10,890 ALAN FREED: What can you say about a sensation 342 00:15:10,890 --> 00:15:12,530 all over the world? 343 00:15:12,530 --> 00:15:16,170 Frankie Lymon, a 13-year-old youngster with a great way with 344 00:15:16,170 --> 00:15:19,150 a song, and The Teenagers. 345 00:15:19,150 --> 00:15:21,410 ["BABY BABY" PLAYING] Baby, baby 346 00:15:21,410 --> 00:15:24,370 [DOO WOP VOCALIZING] 347 00:15:31,610 --> 00:15:34,230 Baby, baby, how I want you 348 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:36,930 Baby, baby, how I need you 349 00:15:36,930 --> 00:15:42,070 Baby, baby you're the only 1, 2, 3, 4 350 00:15:42,070 --> 00:15:44,670 Baby, baby, how I miss you 351 00:15:44,670 --> 00:15:47,230 Baby, baby long to kiss you 352 00:15:47,230 --> 00:15:52,510 Baby, baby say you want me 2, 3, 4, 5 353 00:15:52,510 --> 00:15:53,410 You're my favorite 354 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:54,868 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): When I saw 355 00:15:54,868 --> 00:15:58,830 Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers come out, I never forgot. 356 00:15:58,830 --> 00:16:02,270 They just shot off of that stage. 357 00:16:02,270 --> 00:16:06,470 This was the most extraordinary stuff I had ever heard. 358 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:08,430 You'd just want to start jumping. 359 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:11,670 You'd just want to start vibrating. 360 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:15,070 I used to play it over and over and over again. 361 00:16:15,070 --> 00:16:17,190 I couldn't get enough of it. 362 00:16:17,190 --> 00:16:19,750 It was just like, what is this? 363 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:20,820 What is this? 364 00:16:23,390 --> 00:16:26,932 It just connected to your soul. 365 00:16:26,932 --> 00:16:29,896 [THE CHANTELS, "MAYBE"] 366 00:16:41,780 --> 00:16:49,340 (SINGING) Maybe if I pray every night 367 00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:54,780 You'll come back to me 368 00:16:54,780 --> 00:17:03,100 And maybe if I cry every day 369 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:08,020 You'll come back to stay 370 00:17:08,020 --> 00:17:11,059 Oh, maybe 371 00:17:11,059 --> 00:17:14,300 ARLENE SMITH: I can remember, when I got out on stage, 372 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,550 the light hit me, and I was gone. 373 00:17:16,550 --> 00:17:23,660 (SINGING) Maybe if I hold your hand 374 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:29,120 You will understand 375 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:32,760 And maybe 376 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,600 I remember singing the whole song, 377 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,540 and coming to, and realizing, oh, I finished this. 378 00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:39,640 Where was I? 379 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,000 I was out. 380 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,390 I was totally up into the light. 381 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:45,468 (SINGING) Oh maybe 382 00:17:45,468 --> 00:17:50,760 Baby, baby, baby, baby 383 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,680 Maybe 384 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:57,640 Baby, baby, baby, baby 385 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Maybe 386 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,560 Baby, baby, baby, baby 387 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,480 Maybe 388 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,160 Baby, baby, baby, baby 389 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,880 [CHILDREN CHATTERING] 390 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,160 It's wild to be here, because I know Arlene. 391 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,780 They know me as Ms. Smith. 392 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:19,180 Ms. Smith. 393 00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:19,680 OK. 394 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,280 So we'll do Ms. Smith today. 395 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,160 OK. 396 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:27,650 So I know Ms. Smith from a whole other way. 397 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:29,370 And Ms. Smith is shy. 398 00:18:29,370 --> 00:18:29,950 I know that. 399 00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:32,230 And she's very modest, too. 400 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:34,950 But when Ms. Smith was only a couple of years 401 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:40,550 older than you guys, when she was around 12, she 402 00:18:40,550 --> 00:18:43,270 and some friends in the neighborhood, 403 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:45,790 they started to have a singing group. 404 00:18:45,790 --> 00:18:49,770 Ms. Smith wrote a few songs, and they made some records. 405 00:18:49,770 --> 00:18:55,070 And when I was a little kid, we would go into the hallways 406 00:18:55,070 --> 00:18:59,430 or into the bathroom where they had a good echo sound, 407 00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:05,166 and we would imitate Ms. Smith's songs. 408 00:19:05,166 --> 00:19:10,550 (SINGING) He's gone 409 00:19:10,550 --> 00:19:18,270 I don't know where but he's gone 410 00:19:18,270 --> 00:19:25,890 I must have done something wrong 411 00:19:25,890 --> 00:19:30,180 He is gone. 412 00:19:32,970 --> 00:19:36,130 He is gone 413 00:19:36,130 --> 00:19:39,810 ARLENE SMITH: As a youngster, all I wanted to do was sing. 414 00:19:39,810 --> 00:19:42,010 I went to a Catholic school. 415 00:19:42,010 --> 00:19:44,410 We had to learn the music of the church-- 416 00:19:44,410 --> 00:19:47,810 Latin hymns and Gregorian chants. 417 00:19:47,810 --> 00:19:51,050 I didn't envision myself as part of a group. 418 00:19:51,050 --> 00:19:53,210 I just knew that my voice was going 419 00:19:53,210 --> 00:19:56,090 to be associated with music. 420 00:19:56,090 --> 00:20:05,970 (SINGING) I'm sorry you're gone, gone, gone, gone 421 00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:08,702 (SINGING) Gone 422 00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:15,810 ARLENE SMITH: That was nice. 423 00:20:15,810 --> 00:20:17,550 (SINGING) Bom, bom, bom 424 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:21,090 Oh, please by my girlfriend 425 00:20:21,090 --> 00:20:24,640 I've been waiting for a long, long time 426 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,960 For the moment I can call you mine 427 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,770 Oh, little girl say, yes 428 00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:31,140 I tell you 429 00:20:31,140 --> 00:20:31,860 Yes, yes 430 00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:34,720 Why don't you be my girlfriend 431 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,260 Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. 432 00:20:36,260 --> 00:20:38,640 Yo, what it look like? 433 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,040 KENNY VANCE: We got royalty here. 434 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:40,780 What's going on? 435 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:44,280 [CHATTER] 436 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,880 All right, wow. 437 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,980 Thanks for coming down. 438 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:47,480 Wow. 439 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:47,920 CLEVELAND STILL: Pleasure, man. 440 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,007 Pleasure. 441 00:20:49,007 --> 00:20:50,840 You know, there's somebody here from Japan 442 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,900 that I want you to meet. 443 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:53,300 Oh, yeah. 444 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:54,760 I don't know where he is. 445 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,730 Yeah, I didn't see him. 446 00:20:55,730 --> 00:20:56,980 He knows The Dubs, you know? 447 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:58,320 He knows the whole-- 448 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,160 I bet that he would know who played bass on [INAUDIBLE]. 449 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,400 That's the kind of guy he is. 450 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:04,900 Yeah. 451 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:05,500 That's the kind of guy he is. 452 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:06,840 Where is Yoshi? 453 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,900 I didn't see him. 454 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:09,640 I don't know. 455 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,937 Who is this? 456 00:21:10,937 --> 00:21:12,020 That's my granddaughter. 457 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:13,480 CLEVELAND STILL: Oh, beautiful. 458 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,840 The love of my life. 459 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,313 Yoshi, this is Cleveland Still. 460 00:21:19,313 --> 00:21:20,138 Cleveland Still. 461 00:21:20,138 --> 00:21:20,680 How, are you? 462 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,562 Hello. 463 00:21:21,562 --> 00:21:22,520 Pleasure to meet you. 464 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,200 Yoshi from Japan. 465 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,100 It's a pleasure. 466 00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:26,440 MAN: Do you remember The Dubs? 467 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,580 Sure, "Could This Be Magic." 468 00:21:28,580 --> 00:21:29,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 469 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,108 How about that? 470 00:21:30,108 --> 00:21:32,140 He named-- he named his company. 471 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:33,660 YOSHI: Yeah, [INAUDIBLE] Magic. 472 00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:36,132 MAN: Yoshi has a record company in Japan. 473 00:21:36,132 --> 00:21:37,840 KENNY VANCE: Can I take a picture of you? 474 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,757 MAN: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 475 00:21:38,757 --> 00:21:39,740 That's a good idea. 476 00:21:39,740 --> 00:21:40,600 Is it on? 477 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,020 MANL Yeah. 478 00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:42,660 OK, sneak in. 479 00:21:42,660 --> 00:21:44,340 [MUSIC PLAYING] 480 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:47,304 KENNY VANCE: Oh, my God. 481 00:21:47,304 --> 00:21:52,980 You know, when I hear these chords, 482 00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:57,860 it reminds me of the days at the Brooklyn Paramount, 483 00:21:57,860 --> 00:21:59,160 when I was waiting on line. 484 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,740 I was a little kid, and I'd go in there, 485 00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:05,520 and groups like The Dubs would be up there on the stage, 486 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,070 and they'd be doing stuff like this. 487 00:22:10,698 --> 00:22:12,740 Cleveland, why don't you come up here and show us 488 00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:14,040 how to do it, my man? 489 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,952 [MUSIC PLAYING] 490 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,180 Show it. 491 00:22:21,180 --> 00:22:25,180 [MUSIC PLAYING] 492 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,390 Doesn't that make your heart feel good? 493 00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:32,528 [MUSIC PLAYING] 494 00:22:32,528 --> 00:22:35,874 [VOCALIZING] 495 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:48,290 ["COULD THIS BE MAGIC" PLAYING] Could this be magic, my dear 496 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,920 Having your love 497 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:01,760 My prayers were answered 498 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:09,720 So far from above 499 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:17,173 I thought that it would be just a memory 500 00:23:17,173 --> 00:23:18,590 CLEVELAND STILL: I've met Richard. 501 00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:21,950 Richard was singing with Five Wings at the time. 502 00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:23,117 Everybody's doing something. 503 00:23:23,117 --> 00:23:23,783 They're singing. 504 00:23:23,783 --> 00:23:25,490 You go by, you hear them, and say, wait. 505 00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:27,510 I got a couple of guys over my way, 506 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:30,896 and we'll try them out and see what they sound like. 507 00:23:30,896 --> 00:23:34,030 He said, well, Cleve-- said, you guys got a nice background, 508 00:23:34,030 --> 00:23:34,530 you know? 509 00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:36,030 I said, yeah, you got a nice lead, 510 00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:38,290 because that's what I needed. 511 00:23:38,290 --> 00:23:39,630 I needed a good lead singer. 512 00:23:39,630 --> 00:23:42,110 Because I was trying to do it, and I don't think my-- 513 00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:46,130 I didn't think my voice was good enough to handle the pressure. 514 00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:49,472 So you were changing personnel, like, overnight. 515 00:23:49,472 --> 00:23:51,680 Just about every night, you would change in personnel 516 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,670 until you got the voice that you wanted. 517 00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:55,390 (SINGING) Could this be magic? 518 00:23:58,150 --> 00:24:08,150 Then magic is mine 519 00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:11,790 The bubbling enthusiasm of our teenagers 520 00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:14,190 was the inspiration for what is now 521 00:24:14,190 --> 00:24:18,620 the most popular style of music in the country, rock and roll. 522 00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:21,090 A few short weeks ago, five teenage boys 523 00:24:21,090 --> 00:24:23,290 went into a recording studio, and they 524 00:24:23,290 --> 00:24:25,230 said they had a song they wanted to sing. 525 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:28,050 It is now the number one record in America, 526 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:31,770 and the song is "Why Do Fools Fall in Love?" 527 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:33,780 They call themselves The Teenagers. 528 00:24:33,780 --> 00:24:36,380 [APPLAUSE] 529 00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:39,250 JIMMY MERCHANT: In my bedroom, all I could hear is-- 530 00:24:39,250 --> 00:24:41,210 [VOCALIZING] 531 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:48,900 --my father playing records. 532 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:52,126 ["TAKE THE TRAIN" PLAYING] 533 00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:02,970 And he would be imitating the horn parts. 534 00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:06,122 [VOCALIZING] 535 00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:10,650 Trombone. 536 00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:12,610 [VOCALIZING] 537 00:25:12,610 --> 00:25:14,800 And I'm listening to all of this. 538 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000 And I'm in a hallway with three other guys, 539 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,020 but we're singing what's on the radio. 540 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,840 (SINGING) Doo, doo, doo, doo 541 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,920 Sweetheart well, it's time to go 542 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,680 (SPEAKING) Watch this. 543 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,426 [VOCALIZING] 544 00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:37,900 ["WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE" PLAYING] 545 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,064 (SINGING) Why do fools fall in love 546 00:25:47,064 --> 00:25:50,600 Why do birds sing so gay 547 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,140 And lovers await the break of day 548 00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:56,760 Why do they fall in love? 549 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,880 ARTIE RIPP: Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers, 550 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,120 that was the American sensation, when 551 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,760 George Goldner had that group. 552 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,280 He was a cat who made records, signed 553 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:14,500 groups, owned the record company, directed the promotion. 554 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:19,060 What he let out of the bag when he created Tico, 555 00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:23,620 and when he created Rama, and when he created Gone and End 556 00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:26,780 and when he created Gee, nobody's 557 00:26:26,780 --> 00:26:29,620 ever been able to duplicate. 558 00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:31,700 The major record companies all of a sudden 559 00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:35,420 had to take notice and say, what are these guys doing? 560 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:38,300 You know, all of a sudden the world has changed. 561 00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:40,860 Our artists are no longer succeeding. 562 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:43,020 Kids ain't buying those records, man. 563 00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:45,880 They're buying Frankie Lymon's next record, 564 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:52,460 you know, The Cleftones' next record, OK, Flamingos, Chantels. 565 00:26:52,460 --> 00:26:53,980 He was the man. 566 00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:56,380 He was the man. 567 00:26:56,380 --> 00:26:59,820 Without him, I don't know where we would be. 568 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:03,020 ARTIE RIPP: George was into hits and stars. 569 00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:05,180 That's what it was all about. 570 00:27:05,180 --> 00:27:10,100 (SINGING) Why does my heart skip a crazy beat 571 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,450 For I know 572 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:15,130 ARLENE SMITH: I heard Frankie Lymon on the radio, 573 00:27:15,130 --> 00:27:18,890 but when I heard Humphrey say he was 13, the bell rang. 574 00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:19,870 I said, he's 13? 575 00:27:19,870 --> 00:27:23,450 I should be doing this. 576 00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:26,390 We went to his block on 162nd Street, and we stood. 577 00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:27,210 We stalked him. 578 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:30,650 I guess that was stalking, because we come on his block 579 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:33,290 and wait to see him come out of his house. 580 00:27:33,290 --> 00:27:37,330 And we'd get dressed up and go to the show and wait backstage. 581 00:27:37,330 --> 00:27:39,410 And that's how we finally connected. 582 00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:45,890 (SINGING) Don't ever leave 583 00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:51,230 Baby, baby, baby, baby stick with me 584 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:53,330 (SPEAKING) One thing I can say, we 585 00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:56,195 were well trained for tone, pitch, quality. 586 00:27:56,195 --> 00:27:57,070 KENNY VANCE: Oh, God. 587 00:27:57,070 --> 00:27:58,528 ARLENE SMITH: So when you heard all 588 00:27:58,528 --> 00:28:03,330 of those those harmonies interchanging, it was beautiful. 589 00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:08,790 So when we went to audition, we brought that training. 590 00:28:08,790 --> 00:28:12,470 (SINGING) Hear my plea 591 00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:15,070 We went walking into George Goldner's office, 592 00:28:15,070 --> 00:28:16,910 and we sang "The Plea." 593 00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:21,850 And he pulled the contracts off his stool, One, two, three. 594 00:28:21,850 --> 00:28:24,050 And we had to take them home and have them signed. 595 00:28:24,050 --> 00:28:25,532 It was no problem. 596 00:28:25,532 --> 00:28:27,490 KENNY VANCE: Right, it was just like, let's go. 597 00:28:27,490 --> 00:28:28,130 ARLENE SMITH: The sound was incredible. 598 00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:29,422 KENNY VANCE: It was incredible. 599 00:28:29,422 --> 00:28:32,595 (SINGING) Baby, baby, stick with me 600 00:28:32,595 --> 00:28:40,030 It would be fine 601 00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:45,335 Baby, baby, baby it is you 602 00:28:45,335 --> 00:28:46,710 JAY TRAYNOR: This night is making 603 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:51,000 me remember my first teenage girlfriend from Brooklyn, 604 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,150 a girl named Barbara Hunt. 605 00:28:53,150 --> 00:28:53,670 DJ: Really? 606 00:28:53,670 --> 00:28:54,090 Yeah. 607 00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:54,450 It's funny. 608 00:28:54,450 --> 00:28:55,610 I remember her name and everything. 609 00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:58,270 And I remember songs like "Mr. Lee" and "Tonight, Tonight" 610 00:28:58,270 --> 00:28:59,470 from The Mello-Kings. 611 00:28:59,470 --> 00:29:00,262 So it brings back-- 612 00:29:00,262 --> 00:29:01,678 KENNY VANCE: That song was written 613 00:29:01,678 --> 00:29:04,310 about-- are you remembering your first woman on the road also? 614 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:04,810 Oh. 615 00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:07,500 Have you got "Traveling Stranger" by Little Anthony? 616 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:08,680 "Traveling Stranger." 617 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,540 I'll tell you a good story. 618 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:12,680 Because Jay, he said about his first girlfriend. 619 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,100 So Anthony was telling this story, 620 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,350 and he says, you know, I remember my first girlfriend. 621 00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:18,500 He says, I used to be on a train. 622 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,700 I was going from Brooklyn. 623 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:26,440 I was taking the A train to Harlem to see this little girl. 624 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:26,940 Memories. 625 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:28,780 That's another story anyway. 626 00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,660 Right, right. 627 00:29:29,660 --> 00:29:30,178 So I-- 628 00:29:30,178 --> 00:29:30,970 You'll get sued-- 629 00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:32,660 [LAUGHTER] 630 00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:33,830 --for breach of contract. 631 00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:36,860 [LAUGHTER] 632 00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:39,482 You know, from J Street and Borough Hall on 25th Street, 633 00:29:39,482 --> 00:29:41,940 I would go to the front of the train and pretend that I was 634 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:44,820 driving the train. 635 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:47,760 I did this, and I really wanted to see her really bad, 636 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:48,760 you know what I mean? 637 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,220 Anyway, it didn't happen, and I was very depressed. 638 00:29:52,220 --> 00:29:55,780 So when on my way back, I was sitting there going, 639 00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:57,600 I'm just a traveling stranger, man. 640 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,100 God. 641 00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:02,384 ["TRAVELING STRANGER" PLAYING] 642 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:14,240 (SINGING) Oh, I'm just a traveling stranger on my way 643 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,480 And I'm looking for your love 644 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Oh, I'm just a drifting stranger on my way 645 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,700 And I'm looking-- 646 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:33,360 I can't write tunes unless I feel pain. 647 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Absolutely. 648 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,320 To women. 649 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,407 I said to him, how come I can never write a song that's happy? 650 00:30:39,407 --> 00:30:40,740 But we did write a happy song. 651 00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:42,380 But that was when we were in California. 652 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:42,800 In California. 653 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,175 When we was having a good time. 654 00:30:44,175 --> 00:30:46,200 Good day sunshine player. 655 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Goodbye good times. 656 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,320 Goodbye good times. 657 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Right, right, right, right. 658 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,160 But it is. 659 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,140 In the hood, you got pain. 660 00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:53,895 Yes, pain. 661 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:55,020 You know what I'm saying? 662 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:56,140 Man, I want to get out of here. 663 00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:58,140 Girl was tearing my life and tearing me apart. 664 00:30:58,140 --> 00:31:00,293 So you-- you look at television, 665 00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:02,460 and you see different people doing different things. 666 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:03,460 Man, I want to be there. 667 00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:04,348 I want to do that. 668 00:31:04,348 --> 00:31:05,890 KENNY VANCE: It was always the group. 669 00:31:05,890 --> 00:31:10,790 That's the thing that's gonna get me out of wherever you were, 670 00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:14,832 and the success, and the money, and the camaraderie. 671 00:31:14,832 --> 00:31:17,040 You guys have been together since you were teenagers. 672 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,540 Right. 673 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:19,230 KENNY VANCE: And to still be together, 674 00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:23,010 and to have made it through, it's a miracle. 675 00:31:23,010 --> 00:31:27,090 ["I'M ALRIGHT" PLAYING] I'm all right 676 00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:29,710 I said I-- I'm all right 677 00:31:29,710 --> 00:31:30,630 Listen 678 00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:32,370 She told me that you love me 679 00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:34,230 She told me that you cared 680 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:38,590 And when she told me that, it made me feel like a millionaire 681 00:31:38,590 --> 00:31:40,430 Everything's gonna be 682 00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:42,150 Everything's gonna be 683 00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:43,910 Everything's gonna be 684 00:31:43,910 --> 00:31:51,830 Everything's gonna be be be be be be be 685 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:54,680 KENNY VANCE: I remember coming to see you as a 13-year-old kid. 686 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,550 MAN: Yes, right. 687 00:31:55,550 --> 00:31:57,230 KENNY VANCE: The whole thing was a trip. 688 00:31:57,230 --> 00:31:57,730 MAN: Right. 689 00:31:57,730 --> 00:31:59,688 KENNY VANCE: You guys would do the dance thing. 690 00:31:59,688 --> 00:32:02,130 It defied human-- 691 00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:03,050 MAN: Gravity. 692 00:32:03,050 --> 00:32:04,330 ANTHONY GOURDINE: Gravity. 693 00:32:04,330 --> 00:32:05,250 MAN: Back then. 694 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:08,170 KENNY VANCE: The place went crazy. 695 00:32:08,170 --> 00:32:12,650 The screaming was unbelievable. 696 00:32:12,650 --> 00:32:16,393 [CROWD CHEERING] 697 00:32:32,170 --> 00:32:33,490 JAY TRAYNOR: It's so good. 698 00:32:33,490 --> 00:32:37,370 They were always so good. 699 00:32:37,370 --> 00:32:40,290 DJ: Gentlemen, the original members of Jay 700 00:32:40,290 --> 00:32:43,870 and the Americans, celebrating 40th anniversary of She Cried, 701 00:32:43,870 --> 00:32:46,125 number 2 record in 1962. 702 00:32:46,125 --> 00:32:47,750 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): In those days, 703 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:51,410 we were lucky enough to get with Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. 704 00:32:51,410 --> 00:32:54,410 Leiber and Stoller were producers. 705 00:32:54,410 --> 00:32:57,050 If it wasn't for them, we never would have had a hit 706 00:32:57,050 --> 00:32:59,260 or never would have had anything happen. 707 00:32:59,260 --> 00:33:02,010 We really, you know, were tools of theirs. 708 00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:04,775 [BOP CHORDS, "WHEN I WOKE UP THIS MORNING"] 709 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,980 (SINGING) I woke up this morning 710 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:11,918 The sun shining brightly 711 00:33:11,918 --> 00:33:14,460 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): But when we went up to their office, 712 00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:17,520 it was already the early '60s. 713 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,960 And they had a concept that had strings, and horns, 714 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,370 and big rhythm sections. 715 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,890 It wasn't doo-wop, but we knew it was great. 716 00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:32,058 [MUSIC PLAYING] 717 00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:34,980 HOWIE KANE: But did you know that we were, like, 718 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:35,940 kind of done? 719 00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:37,880 I think after they put out "Dawning," 720 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,880 and it didn't make it at that point. 721 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,600 I think Lieber and Stoller were gonna cut our contracts, 722 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,560 because I think they really gave us a shot with one album and one 723 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,100 deal. 724 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,780 And I remember we were feeling terrible. 725 00:33:47,780 --> 00:33:49,480 And then, all of a sudden, I was going back 726 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,022 to the funeral business, because my father was an undertaker. 727 00:33:52,022 --> 00:33:54,213 And I remember, they turned it over. 728 00:33:54,213 --> 00:33:55,380 I don't remember who it was. 729 00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:56,500 But they played the B-side. 730 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:57,800 MAN: They played it over and over. 731 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,580 HOWIE KANE: "She Cried--" and then we got a call back, 732 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:00,540 and that was it. 733 00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:02,720 JAY TRAYNOR: We were at a gig somewhere in Jersey, 734 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,832 and we were driving back on the Jersey Turnpike. 735 00:34:04,832 --> 00:34:06,540 And all of a sudden, it came on the radio 736 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:08,300 that this was the first time we went-- 737 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:09,520 we went nuts in the car. 738 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:17,139 [JAY AND THE AMERICANS, "SHE CRIED"] And when I told her I 739 00:34:17,139 --> 00:34:24,300 didn't love her anymore 740 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:29,560 She cried 741 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,060 She cried 742 00:34:31,060 --> 00:34:41,060 And when I told her, her kisses were not like before 743 00:34:43,659 --> 00:34:44,340 Move up, now. 744 00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:44,840 Get up. 745 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,380 Get in here. 746 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:50,219 Ready, 1, 2, 3. 747 00:34:50,219 --> 00:35:00,219 (SINGING) I thought that our romance was over and done 748 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:09,120 But to her it had just begun 749 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:15,000 And when I told her 750 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Another girl had caught my eye 751 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,860 Sha la la la 752 00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:23,080 Sha la la la 753 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,320 She cried 754 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:37,720 She cried 755 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:38,600 Oh. 756 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,960 Yeah. 757 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,280 Hey, Traynor. 758 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,880 Howard, nicely done. 759 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,880 Nice going, guys. 760 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,600 [INDISCERNIBLE SINGING] 761 00:35:58,030 --> 00:36:00,890 (SINGING) I say, Lord, you rock my soul 762 00:36:00,890 --> 00:36:02,700 Why don't you rock my soul 763 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:04,630 SAMMY STRAIN: My father used to sing gospel 764 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:07,110 with the Golden Gate Quartet. 765 00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:10,190 I had 10 sisters and 5 brothers. 766 00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:11,870 It was the Pit Gospel Singers. 767 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:16,590 We never recorded, but we did a lot of tearing up in church, 768 00:36:16,590 --> 00:36:17,090 you know? 769 00:36:17,090 --> 00:36:18,290 (SINGING) When he died 770 00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:19,890 Why don't you praise King Jesus? 771 00:36:19,890 --> 00:36:21,430 Got a home on high 772 00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:22,970 Why don't you praise the Lord? 773 00:36:22,970 --> 00:36:23,530 He said-- 774 00:36:23,530 --> 00:36:26,910 When we got the five original guys, Jive Five, 775 00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:28,870 I took them to my father. 776 00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:31,670 My father trained us how to sing. 777 00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:36,750 And we rehearsed like two hours every day for two years. 778 00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:38,310 (SINGING) Lord, you rock my-- 779 00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:40,910 KENNY VANCE: You told me that your father 780 00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:44,010 would have each guy stand in a different corner of the room. 781 00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:47,070 SAMMY STRAIN: And the leads sang from the middle. 782 00:36:47,070 --> 00:36:50,790 That way, you wouldn't find anybody leaning on the next guy 783 00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:51,610 to hear his note. 784 00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:52,902 He's supposed to know his note. 785 00:36:52,902 --> 00:36:56,610 Once he gave you your note, that was it right there. 786 00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:58,188 He trained us to sing gospel. 787 00:36:58,188 --> 00:36:59,730 When we got out on the street, that's 788 00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:03,410 when we sang doo-wop, because he didn't allow that rock and roll 789 00:37:03,410 --> 00:37:03,910 stuff. 790 00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:10,690 When we got an audition at Beltone-- 791 00:37:10,690 --> 00:37:14,710 and Joe Rene, he said, these guys really sound good. 792 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:18,590 He said, do you have any originals or other songs? 793 00:37:18,590 --> 00:37:20,890 I said, well, yeah, we have a song we don't like. 794 00:37:20,890 --> 00:37:22,182 He said, why you don't like it? 795 00:37:22,182 --> 00:37:23,870 I said, because it's about me. 796 00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:26,010 It's a true story. 797 00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:29,410 (SINGING) There is a story and 798 00:37:29,410 --> 00:37:32,090 That I must tell 799 00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:36,930 Of two lovers that I knew well 800 00:37:36,930 --> 00:37:40,770 Her name was Sue, yeah 801 00:37:40,770 --> 00:37:44,490 His name was Earl 802 00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:47,570 His love was Lorraine 803 00:37:47,570 --> 00:37:50,010 She's a wonderful girl 804 00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:53,960 But they must cry, cry, cry, 805 00:37:53,960 --> 00:38:00,882 Oh, their blues away 806 00:38:00,882 --> 00:38:05,400 Blues away 807 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,360 So when they got up from the desk, 808 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,800 Les Cahan said, that's a smash. 809 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,520 (SINGING) And love will make you cry 810 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,820 Love will make the tears fall 811 00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:20,440 (SPEAKING) My father never knew that I was singing rock and roll 812 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,674 until "My True Story" hit and was going off the charts 813 00:38:24,674 --> 00:38:29,893 (SINGING) Whoa their blues away 814 00:38:29,893 --> 00:38:38,240 Cry, cry, cry 815 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,173 (SPEAKING) My father came to me, and he said, 816 00:38:40,173 --> 00:38:43,720 you know, I heard you got a hit record. 817 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:44,817 I said, yeah, Dad. 818 00:38:44,817 --> 00:38:46,400 He started laughing, because he didn't 819 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,320 want me to sing rock and roll. 820 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,300 I said, yeah, Dad, we got a hit. 821 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:52,880 He said, yeah, somebody told me. 822 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,995 (SINGING) Cry, cry whoa, 823 00:38:57,995 --> 00:39:00,150 Our blues away 824 00:39:00,150 --> 00:39:02,472 Cry, cry, cry 825 00:39:02,472 --> 00:39:06,954 Whoa, oh, oh 826 00:39:06,954 --> 00:39:08,950 We must cry 827 00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:11,745 Cry, cry, cry 828 00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:22,080 MAN: House of Oldies. 829 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,900 Hey, guys. 830 00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:23,840 MAN: Hey, Kenny. 831 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,520 How you doing? 832 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,480 MAN: Oh, I'm doing good. 833 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,660 How are you? 834 00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:26,220 MAN: What's going on? 835 00:39:26,220 --> 00:39:28,880 KENNY VANCE: I got a little surprise for you, Mr. Cleveland 836 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,987 Still from The Dubs. 837 00:39:29,987 --> 00:39:30,570 MAN: Pleasure. 838 00:39:30,570 --> 00:39:31,720 I don't believe it. 839 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,600 This is like Moses coming to the mountain. 840 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,260 I mean, it's a wonderful pleasure. 841 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:40,100 I've been a big fan for many years. 842 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,220 You are definitely in the top five vocal groups 843 00:39:43,220 --> 00:39:44,922 that we get calls for. 844 00:39:44,922 --> 00:39:45,880 Yeah, I'd love to get-- 845 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,750 I'd love to get the Johnson record. 846 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:51,110 That's like-- so would everybody else, right? 847 00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:51,690 Yeah. 848 00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:54,030 "Don't Ask Me" first came out on Johnson, very, 849 00:39:54,030 --> 00:39:55,270 very small pressing. 850 00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:57,010 Give me a thousand copies of it, and I'll 851 00:39:57,010 --> 00:39:58,010 trade you for the store. 852 00:39:58,010 --> 00:39:59,930 How's that? 853 00:39:59,930 --> 00:40:00,910 Am I right or wrong? 854 00:40:00,910 --> 00:40:03,030 MAN: Right? 855 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:06,670 It sells-- a clean copy sells for probably about $1,000. 856 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:08,370 Let's see what we got here. 857 00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:11,420 OK, we got the mock X on the "Be Sure." 858 00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:12,170 KENNY VANCE: Yeah. 859 00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:12,837 Remember that? 860 00:40:12,837 --> 00:40:14,275 That's the early pressing of that. 861 00:40:14,275 --> 00:40:16,150 KENNY VANCE: How much is something like this? 862 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:18,690 MAN: Oh, that's about-- 863 00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:20,290 about $50. 864 00:40:20,290 --> 00:40:21,810 And here's "Don't Ask Me." 865 00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:22,890 Oo-wee. 866 00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:23,510 MAN: Yeah. 867 00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:25,370 We got all of the early stuff. 868 00:40:25,370 --> 00:40:27,270 I'm out of your ABC Paramount stuff. 869 00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:29,687 I wish I could get it. 870 00:40:29,687 --> 00:40:32,270 That's some great stuff that a lot of people don't know about, 871 00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:32,770 you know? 872 00:40:32,770 --> 00:40:33,890 It's really wonderful. 873 00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:35,570 We've got "Could This be Magic?" 874 00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:38,992 and "Beside My Love," "Be Sure My Love." 875 00:40:38,992 --> 00:40:40,575 KENNY VANCE: "Be Sure My Love" I know. 876 00:40:40,575 --> 00:40:43,250 [VOCALIZING] 877 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:47,070 (SINGING) Be sure my love 878 00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:48,708 Yeah, it's a duet. 879 00:40:48,708 --> 00:40:49,250 Yeah, yeah. 880 00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:50,270 MAN: Great up-tempo B-side. 881 00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:51,590 KENNY VANCE: Who's sang the duet? 882 00:40:51,590 --> 00:40:52,150 CLEVELAND STILL: Richard-- 883 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:53,650 Richard and myself were doing that. 884 00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:54,750 KENNY VANCE: No kidding. 885 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:55,670 OK. 886 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:58,470 OK, you got it. 887 00:40:58,470 --> 00:41:00,110 [THE DUBS, "BE SURE MY LOVE" PLAYING] 888 00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:01,830 Do do do 889 00:41:01,830 --> 00:41:05,190 Do do do do do do do do do 890 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:05,970 Do do do. 891 00:41:05,970 --> 00:41:07,870 Oh, this is a beauty. 892 00:41:07,870 --> 00:41:09,390 Who did the strings? 893 00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:11,010 I don't know. 894 00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:13,660 Beautiful. 895 00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:21,224 (SINGING) Be sure my love 896 00:41:21,224 --> 00:41:24,990 Be sure you love me 897 00:41:24,990 --> 00:41:27,190 I think we're all gonna die. 898 00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:29,365 There's an Italian word called [INAUDIBLE]. 899 00:41:29,365 --> 00:41:39,365 (SINGING) Tell me your love is mine 900 00:41:44,890 --> 00:41:46,860 Wow. 901 00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:48,940 [INAUDIBLE] 902 00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:51,940 KENNY VANCE: You were signed to Gone Records. 903 00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:53,940 Frankie Lymon was up there. 904 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:55,640 The Cleftones were up there. 905 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,440 The Chantels were already there. 906 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,357 CLEVELAND STILL: Yeah. 907 00:41:58,357 --> 00:42:00,460 [THE DUBS, "CHAPEL OF DREAMS"] 908 00:42:00,460 --> 00:42:07,860 (SINGING) In the chapel of dreams 909 00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:12,860 Every dream will come true 910 00:42:12,860 --> 00:42:17,260 ARTIE RIPP: I get a job, Gone Records. 911 00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:20,980 I asked George Goldner for $20 a week, 912 00:42:20,980 --> 00:42:24,460 because I had to have money to come in from Queens, 913 00:42:24,460 --> 00:42:27,820 eat, and travel back to Queens. 914 00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:34,820 He gives me $50 a week, and I'm able to now learn from him 915 00:42:34,820 --> 00:42:37,060 and never leave his side. 916 00:42:37,060 --> 00:42:37,840 What do you want? 917 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,420 I'll get it for you. 918 00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:40,980 How come you said that? 919 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:42,000 Oh, I see. 920 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,560 How come you did that? 921 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,200 You picked that song rather than this song. 922 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,363 How come that guy's singing lead, not that one? 923 00:42:48,363 --> 00:42:50,280 [THE CLEFTONES, "OH LITTLE GIRL OF MINE"] Yeah 924 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,880 [VOCALIZING] 925 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,800 Oh, little girl of mine 926 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:09,080 George was a 360-degree lesson in life. 927 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,280 He was insane, wonderful, a gambler, 928 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,920 and nobody had his ears-- 929 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,200 nobody. 930 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,280 He would go in the studio, and if you listened 931 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,440 from Frankie Lymon, to The Chantels, to The Flamingos, 932 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,560 to the Latin records he made, Tico, he's 933 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,200 getting somebody to lay their soul out. 934 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,640 He doesn't want the song. 935 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,880 He wants you. 936 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,520 Give me you. 937 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,380 What does this mean to you? 938 00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:48,470 [THE CHANTELS, "I LOVE YOU SO"] I love you so 939 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:52,990 I love you so 940 00:43:52,990 --> 00:43:58,590 Arlene Smith is one of the greatest voices ever. 941 00:43:58,590 --> 00:44:01,710 She had this extraordinary instrument 942 00:44:01,710 --> 00:44:06,230 to be able to pop it, and at the same time 943 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:10,550 be gentle, and at the same time blow the walls off. 944 00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:19,150 (SINGING) I'll never let you go 945 00:44:19,150 --> 00:44:20,630 ARLENE SMITH: It was long. 946 00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:22,790 It was a lot of raw emotions. 947 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:25,190 That's what it was. 948 00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:27,070 My father was strict. 949 00:44:27,070 --> 00:44:29,070 My freedom was music. 950 00:44:29,070 --> 00:44:32,350 It was my saving grace. 951 00:44:32,350 --> 00:44:37,090 There's a higher power that said, this child is in trouble. 952 00:44:37,090 --> 00:44:38,910 Let me give her something. 953 00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:40,630 And now I've learned to ask God to please 954 00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:42,130 let it come through me as a vehicle, 955 00:44:42,130 --> 00:44:43,710 because that's all I am. 956 00:44:43,710 --> 00:44:46,902 (SINGING) Go 957 00:44:46,902 --> 00:44:48,730 I love you 958 00:44:48,730 --> 00:44:50,610 I used to sing light and pretty. 959 00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:53,910 George made me sing harder to make it commercial. 960 00:44:57,610 --> 00:44:59,530 WALLY ROKER: The only thing was on our mind 961 00:44:59,530 --> 00:45:03,950 is making a great record, or making a great song, 962 00:45:03,950 --> 00:45:05,670 or making a great sound. 963 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:09,130 [THE HEARTBEATS, "A THOUSAND MILES AWAY"] You're a thousand 964 00:45:09,130 --> 00:45:11,210 miles away 965 00:45:11,210 --> 00:45:20,730 But I still have your love to remember you by 966 00:45:20,730 --> 00:45:23,890 WALLY ROKER: Shep had like three chords or four chords 967 00:45:23,890 --> 00:45:25,150 that he played on the piano. 968 00:45:25,150 --> 00:45:27,590 And if you listen to all our songs, it's in that realm. 969 00:45:27,590 --> 00:45:29,690 It's in those three or four chords. 970 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:36,570 (SINGING) Daddy's coming home soon 971 00:45:36,570 --> 00:45:40,950 We were on a little sweet label named [INAUDIBLE] 972 00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:44,070 who loved us and did everything in the world for us. 973 00:45:44,070 --> 00:45:46,310 The record was trying to be a hit. 974 00:45:46,310 --> 00:45:51,150 She was not really a record person, so me and my smart butt, 975 00:45:51,150 --> 00:45:54,656 I said, well, we need to get a label that can really, you know, 976 00:45:54,656 --> 00:45:56,310 make a hit. 977 00:45:56,310 --> 00:46:01,720 And I made her sell it from her label to George Goldner. 978 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,970 KENNY VANCE: When "A Thousand Miles" came out, I mean, 979 00:46:03,970 --> 00:46:07,030 it was a huge hit. 980 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:12,430 WALLY ROKER: George was the music man. 981 00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:14,310 You go on that floor, all you can 982 00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:17,630 hear is this one record being played all day long, 983 00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:21,350 from 8 o'clock in the morning till 8 o'clock at night, 984 00:46:21,350 --> 00:46:25,070 over and over and over. 985 00:46:25,070 --> 00:46:28,390 He was mesmerizing himself into telling everybody 986 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:30,140 in the world it's a number one record. 987 00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:40,700 Every single day, lots and lots of artists, producers, 988 00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:43,860 managers knocking on the door. 989 00:46:43,860 --> 00:46:46,660 [THE CROWS, "GEE"] Do do do do do do do do 990 00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:49,660 Do do do do do do do do do do do 991 00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:53,980 Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do 992 00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:58,420 Love that girl 993 00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:04,380 Every single day, getting the records on the air. 994 00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:07,140 Getting the records in the store. 995 00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:09,900 Getting the records to be reported 996 00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:12,580 to Cash Box and Billboard. 997 00:47:12,580 --> 00:47:15,300 And then, there's what's the next record 998 00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:16,520 that we're putting out? 999 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,540 (SINGING) I love that girl 1000 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:19,680 Love that girl 1001 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,672 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1002 00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:32,240 DJ: Seems like yesterday, doesn't it? 1003 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:32,450 Wow. 1004 00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:32,880 This is great. 1005 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,600 This is a great show. 1006 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,558 MAN: This is fantastic. 1007 00:47:34,558 --> 00:47:35,240 Fun. 1008 00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,960 And we want to mention you guys are inducted into the Vocal 1009 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,340 Group Hall of Fame. 1010 00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:40,840 Yes. 1011 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,640 DJ: Well deserved. 1012 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,410 Well deserved. 1013 00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:45,760 With the-- with The Harptones, The Chantels-- 1014 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,160 And with Jay Traynor. 1015 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:47,660 Yeah. 1016 00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:48,860 Yes. 1017 00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:49,780 And Jay Black. 1018 00:47:49,780 --> 00:47:50,740 Look how lucky we are. 1019 00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:51,420 That's right. 1020 00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:53,920 How did it happen that you left the group? 1021 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,560 And I know you taked about having an opportunity to go 1022 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,540 solo, right? 1023 00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:04,100 Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich were songwriters and producers. 1024 00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:08,320 They told me that Phil Spector was interested in recording me. 1025 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,080 And-- 1026 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,860 MAN: I hit him. 1027 00:48:10,860 --> 00:48:13,640 And probably foolishly, I decided 1028 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,180 to try to go do some stuff with him, 1029 00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:18,550 and that's why I left the group. 1030 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:20,300 People always say, well, do you regret it? 1031 00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:23,000 I say, well, how can you regret it? 1032 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,620 It's something you did in life, and that's-- you just go on. 1033 00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:29,880 ["LET'S LOCK THE DOOR" PLAYING] Let's lock the door and throw 1034 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,190 away the key now 1035 00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:37,010 I can't wait to kiss you 1036 00:48:37,010 --> 00:48:37,990 Oh, no! 1037 00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:40,470 One little minute more 1038 00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:44,570 We met at a party last weekend 1039 00:48:44,570 --> 00:48:47,630 The moment your eyes looked into mine 1040 00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:51,510 Right then, my lips forgot how to speak 1041 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:55,710 And the soda started tasting like wine 1042 00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:59,190 How I wish everyone would go home 1043 00:48:59,190 --> 00:49:04,310 So I can say when I got you alone 1044 00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:12,750 Come on now, let's lock the door and throw away the key now 1045 00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:15,910 I can't wait to kiss you 1046 00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:16,470 Oh, no! 1047 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:20,230 One little minute more 1048 00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:25,070 Ah no! 1049 00:49:25,070 --> 00:49:27,390 Oh, yeah 1050 00:49:27,390 --> 00:49:28,630 No! 1051 00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:32,198 Oh, yeah 1052 00:49:32,198 --> 00:49:36,090 I'll kiss your lips like a kiss ought to be 1053 00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:38,110 And then I know you'll be saying-- 1054 00:49:38,110 --> 00:49:40,410 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): We were just on a high. 1055 00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:44,890 We were having hit records and traveling all over the world. 1056 00:49:44,890 --> 00:49:46,470 (SINGING) And throw away the key now 1057 00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:48,595 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): We opened for the Beatles, 1058 00:49:48,595 --> 00:49:50,290 and we opened for the Rolling Stones 1059 00:49:50,290 --> 00:49:52,300 when they first came to the United States 1060 00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:53,290 (SINGING) Oh, no! 1061 00:49:53,290 --> 00:49:56,850 One little minute more 1062 00:49:56,850 --> 00:50:06,850 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh 1063 00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:12,390 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): Now, 30 years later, 1064 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:15,380 we're being inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame. 1065 00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:18,556 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1066 00:50:20,563 --> 00:50:21,730 MAN: Waiting for you, Howie. 1067 00:50:21,730 --> 00:50:22,590 I'm right here. 1068 00:50:22,590 --> 00:50:24,490 Get us started. 1069 00:50:24,490 --> 00:50:29,044 (SINGING) Be sure to hold her, hold her tight 1070 00:50:29,044 --> 00:50:31,400 When you dance 1071 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,320 You'll squeeze her, yeah, with all your might 1072 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,280 Such a thrill 1073 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,240 Oh, when she's close to you 1074 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:47,682 Well, hold her tight 1075 00:50:47,682 --> 00:50:51,119 [VOCALIZING] 1076 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,020 This is Michelle Phillips, y'all. 1077 00:50:58,020 --> 00:50:58,520 Yeah. 1078 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,280 [CHATTER, LAUGHTER] 1079 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,998 (SINGING) My love must be a kind of blind love 1080 00:51:04,998 --> 00:51:05,540 Right here. 1081 00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:06,220 Right frame. 1082 00:51:06,220 --> 00:51:06,720 Oh, OK. 1083 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,080 I got you. 1084 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,628 (SINGING) I can't see anyone but you 1085 00:51:13,628 --> 00:51:16,610 [DOO WOPPING] 1086 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,410 Are the stars out tonight? 1087 00:51:33,140 --> 00:51:38,820 I don't know if it's cloudy or bright 1088 00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:43,770 I only have eyes 1089 00:51:43,770 --> 00:51:47,060 [VOCALIZING] 1090 00:51:55,820 --> 00:51:56,840 Don't stop. 1091 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,380 And wow, wow. 1092 00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:00,220 That's at the end. 1093 00:52:00,220 --> 00:52:02,220 Stop and wow, wow. 1094 00:52:02,220 --> 00:52:03,700 Oh, turning up now. 1095 00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:06,320 Turn. 1096 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,340 Just want to-- 1097 00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:08,260 Yeah. 1098 00:52:08,260 --> 00:52:09,080 It's gonna be fun. 1099 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,080 That made the weekend. 1100 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:10,950 I'm done. 1101 00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:11,760 Yeah. 1102 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,060 [LAUGHTER] 1103 00:52:13,060 --> 00:52:13,920 It's gonna be fun. 1104 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,420 It's going to be fun. 1105 00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:16,580 Yeah. 1106 00:52:16,580 --> 00:52:17,340 Dickie. 1107 00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:19,860 [VOCALIZING] 1108 00:52:28,270 --> 00:52:29,330 No, three times. 1109 00:52:29,330 --> 00:52:29,830 Yes, sir. 1110 00:52:29,830 --> 00:52:30,690 Intro three times. 1111 00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:31,347 Three times. 1112 00:52:31,347 --> 00:52:31,930 One more time. 1113 00:52:31,930 --> 00:52:33,530 [VOCALIZING] 1114 00:52:45,250 --> 00:52:48,670 (SINGING) Oh, I love her so 1115 00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:50,170 KENNY VANCE: You look handsome, man. 1116 00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:51,380 Praise the Lord. 1117 00:52:51,380 --> 00:52:52,630 KENNY VANCE: I'm serious, man. 1118 00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:56,250 She's got you looking handsome, Jack. 1119 00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:58,850 You're looking good, man. 1120 00:52:58,850 --> 00:53:02,170 When I was a kid, it would be 8 o'clock in the morning, 1121 00:53:02,170 --> 00:53:04,990 and we'd be on the bus going to school, singing. 1122 00:53:04,990 --> 00:53:07,555 And everybody on the bus is singing that song. 1123 00:53:07,555 --> 00:53:08,430 JIMMY MERCHANT: Yeah. 1124 00:53:08,430 --> 00:53:09,350 Do you remember that? 1125 00:53:09,350 --> 00:53:09,750 JIMMY MERCHANT: Of course. 1126 00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:10,770 All over the city. 1127 00:53:10,770 --> 00:53:11,893 All over the country, man. 1128 00:53:11,893 --> 00:53:13,810 I heard somebody else sing it in the hallway 1129 00:53:13,810 --> 00:53:15,610 before I heard it on the radio. 1130 00:53:15,610 --> 00:53:17,770 I'm changing classes in George Washington High 1131 00:53:17,770 --> 00:53:19,490 School in Washington Heights. 1132 00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:24,060 I'm going to Mr. Slotnick's class, OK? 1133 00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:26,030 KENNY VANCE: We all had Mr. Slotnick. 1134 00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:27,050 He was in every school. 1135 00:53:27,050 --> 00:53:28,258 JIMMY MERCHANT: That's right. 1136 00:53:28,258 --> 00:53:30,190 We all had his class. 1137 00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:33,310 The record comes out January 1. 1138 00:53:33,310 --> 00:53:38,150 February 12, we're doing our first engagement for pay. 1139 00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:45,110 And look who's on the show, Fats Domino, The Harptones, 1140 00:53:45,110 --> 00:53:47,670 The Flamingos, all the people that I'm 1141 00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:49,350 listening to on the radio. 1142 00:53:49,350 --> 00:53:50,910 Oh, my God. 1143 00:53:50,910 --> 00:53:53,810 When we pulled up, I saw all those people on the billboard. 1144 00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:59,450 And then, The Teenagers featuring Frankie Lymon. 1145 00:53:59,450 --> 00:54:05,098 This is before Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers. 1146 00:54:05,098 --> 00:54:06,140 MAN: Funny how that goes. 1147 00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:09,922 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1148 00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:21,900 KENNY VANCE: When you played at the Brooklyn Paramount 1149 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:25,700 in the early days, I heard that you were in the dressing room 1150 00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,020 right next to Frankie Lymon, in the dressing room right 1151 00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:29,900 next to Speedoo. 1152 00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:31,180 Speedoo from the Cadillacs. 1153 00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:32,680 JIMMY MERCHANT: Yeah, the Cadillacs. 1154 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,020 [EARL "SPEEDOO" CARROLL, "GLORIA"] Gloria 1155 00:54:36,020 --> 00:54:38,916 [VOCALIZING] 1156 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,835 And not Marie 1157 00:54:44,835 --> 00:54:47,310 SAMMY STRAIN: "Down the Road," "No Chance." 1158 00:54:47,310 --> 00:54:48,010 MAN: "Peekaboo." 1159 00:54:48,010 --> 00:54:49,260 SAMMY STRAIN: Right, Peekaboo. 1160 00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:49,920 MAN: "Gloria." 1161 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,380 MAN: "Gloria." 1162 00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:53,005 KENNY VANCE: "Gloria"-- that's the classic of this whole ditty. 1163 00:54:53,005 --> 00:54:54,780 Yeah. 1164 00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,920 And as a kid like you, I used to go see these acts. 1165 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,400 And I used to love that, all that stuff they did, 1166 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,500 all that choreography. 1167 00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:05,158 When I first met Speedoo, I was in The Chips and we were 1168 00:55:05,158 --> 00:55:07,700 playing the Apollo Theater, the very first time I played "Dr. 1169 00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:13,780 Jive Show," 1956 with The Dells, The Cadillacs, Bo Diddley, 1170 00:55:13,780 --> 00:55:16,615 The School Boys, Robert and Johnny. 1171 00:55:16,615 --> 00:55:17,990 I remember like it was yesterday. 1172 00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:20,795 ["DIAMOND RING" PLAYING] 1173 00:55:22,743 --> 00:55:27,520 (SINGING) Bo Diddley buy a baby diamond ring 1174 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,035 If that diamond ring don't shine 1175 00:55:31,035 --> 00:55:35,335 Bo Diddley take it to a private eye 1176 00:55:35,335 --> 00:55:36,960 SAMMY STRAIN: And I remember Bo Diddley 1177 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,168 used to tear the Apollo up, cause he's the headliner. 1178 00:55:39,168 --> 00:55:42,360 I said, well, who the hell can go on after Bo Diddley? 1179 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,600 I stood in the wings. 1180 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,920 The stars of the show were The Cadillacs. 1181 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,360 (SINGING) Well, some may call me Mo 1182 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,400 Some may call me Joe 1183 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,580 Just remember Speedooo he don't ever take it slow 1184 00:55:55,580 --> 00:55:57,860 Well, now they all call me Speedooo 1185 00:55:57,860 --> 00:56:02,612 But my real name is Mr. Earl 1186 00:56:02,612 --> 00:56:04,720 SAMMY STRAIN: And I had never seen choreography 1187 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,800 like that in my life. 1188 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,360 The whole group were dancing. 1189 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,860 Then, after the show one night, we had finished our last show. 1190 00:56:12,860 --> 00:56:13,820 We were going home. 1191 00:56:13,820 --> 00:56:15,403 They had a limousine waiting for them. 1192 00:56:15,403 --> 00:56:17,560 They were catching a plane to go to Washington DC. 1193 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,080 They were going to another gig. 1194 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,240 And they were sharp. 1195 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,300 I remember were sharp. 1196 00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:24,940 Speedoo had on a black pinstriped suit. 1197 00:56:24,940 --> 00:56:26,720 Damn, this is big. 1198 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,110 These guys are-- these guys are large. 1199 00:56:29,110 --> 00:56:30,403 [LAUGHTER] 1200 00:56:30,403 --> 00:56:33,784 [THE JIVE FIVE, "HULLY GULLY CALLIN' TIME"] 1201 00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,120 (SINGING) Everybody hully gully 1202 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,710 Come on, come on now 1203 00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:44,100 Everybody hully gully 1204 00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:47,120 Yeah, baby 1205 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:47,780 Come on 1206 00:56:47,780 --> 00:56:51,540 Everybody hully gully 1207 00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:55,660 When the leaders cross the floor 1208 00:56:55,660 --> 00:56:59,820 Everybody gets into line 1209 00:56:59,820 --> 00:57:04,820 Grab your partner, have a ball 1210 00:57:04,820 --> 00:57:08,380 EUGENE PITT: We went on tour, did 61 one-nighters. 1211 00:57:08,380 --> 00:57:11,220 I mean, we went everywhere. 1212 00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:12,220 KENNY VANCE: In the bus? 1213 00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:12,620 SAMMY STRAIN: Yeah. 1214 00:57:12,620 --> 00:57:12,900 KENNY VANCE: Who was-- 1215 00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:13,942 SAMMY STRAIN: In the bus. 1216 00:57:16,330 --> 00:57:18,853 (SINGING) When the leader says let's go 1217 00:57:18,853 --> 00:57:20,270 KENNY VANCE: Who's was in the bus? 1218 00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:23,770 SAMMY STRAIN: In the bus, we had Linda Scott, Clarence Frogman 1219 00:57:23,770 --> 00:57:24,450 Henry. 1220 00:57:24,450 --> 00:57:25,930 We had Chubby Checker. 1221 00:57:25,930 --> 00:57:28,370 We had The Shirelles, Paul Anka. 1222 00:57:28,370 --> 00:57:29,970 (SINGING) Do the hula hoop 1223 00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:34,690 Yeah, baby 1224 00:57:34,690 --> 00:57:37,830 But it was, like, tiresome, because you'd do one show here, 1225 00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:44,770 and the next night we were in Texas, and then back to Canada. 1226 00:57:44,770 --> 00:57:47,050 (SINGING) Do the Floyd Patterson 1227 00:57:47,050 --> 00:57:49,390 Yeah, baby 1228 00:57:49,390 --> 00:57:53,410 Everybody hully gully 1229 00:57:53,410 --> 00:57:57,210 Everybody's got it right 1230 00:57:57,210 --> 00:57:59,770 We had some great times. 1231 00:57:59,770 --> 00:58:02,150 It was like, you know, family on the road. 1232 00:58:02,150 --> 00:58:04,350 This was my first experience of being on the road, 1233 00:58:04,350 --> 00:58:10,890 and I just enjoyed it so much that I did it for 42 years. 1234 00:58:10,890 --> 00:58:13,210 We would be on stage singing, and you'd 1235 00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:19,670 see the promoter leaving with the cash box waving goodbye. 1236 00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:22,813 And the place would be jam packed. 1237 00:58:22,813 --> 00:58:24,730 KENNY VANCE: When we had our first hit record, 1238 00:58:24,730 --> 00:58:27,630 we were making $300 with a number one 1239 00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:31,750 record for a night-- $300, thanks to Ernie. 1240 00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:33,730 That's what he was booking us for, $300. 1241 00:58:34,570 --> 00:58:36,890 Better pay me. 1242 00:58:36,890 --> 00:58:39,870 [LAUGHTER] 1243 00:58:39,870 --> 00:58:40,980 Wait, you got $300? 1244 00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:43,338 [LAUGHTER] 1245 00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:45,530 Wow! 1246 00:58:45,530 --> 00:58:49,192 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1247 00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:58,070 ARLENE SMITH: That's a part of my life that's bittersweet. 1248 00:58:58,070 --> 00:59:01,270 My father traveled with us. 1249 00:59:01,270 --> 00:59:02,710 I didn't have the freedom, but I'm 1250 00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:05,910 glad that they were strict, because it would have been very 1251 00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:09,950 easy for children of 13 and 15, 16 1252 00:59:09,950 --> 00:59:16,260 to run into all of the wise guys on the road. 1253 00:59:16,260 --> 00:59:18,300 And the manager, he should go down 1254 00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:20,460 in history with some of the things 1255 00:59:20,460 --> 00:59:23,900 that he used to do in terms of protecting the group, 1256 00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:27,100 and locking the door, and go in in the morning, 1257 00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,170 and come out at night in the shows. 1258 00:59:29,170 --> 00:59:33,540 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1259 00:59:33,540 --> 00:59:36,820 When you're 13, 14, 15, everything's kicking. 1260 00:59:36,820 --> 00:59:39,620 But I never got a chance to do that, 1261 00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:42,400 because I got mine out for the music. 1262 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,286 So that's why it's all such passion, such this, such that. 1263 00:59:46,286 --> 00:59:48,540 That was all of that excess energy. 1264 00:59:48,540 --> 00:59:53,075 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1265 00:59:53,075 --> 00:59:55,700 [FRANKIE LYMON and THE TEENAGERS, "I WANT YOU TO BE MY GIRL"] Oh, 1266 00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:58,260 oh, oh, oh, 1267 00:59:58,260 --> 01:00:01,420 Oh, oh, oh, oh 1268 01:00:01,420 --> 01:00:03,790 I love you, baby 1269 01:00:03,790 --> 01:00:06,940 KENNY VANCE: When you guys came out, 1270 01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:08,700 it was like you guys were already 1271 01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:11,760 men, especially Frankie Lymon. 1272 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,400 He was, like, little, but he was like-- 1273 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:20,060 like, it took me years to figure anything out, 1274 01:00:20,060 --> 01:00:22,185 to grow into who I am. 1275 01:00:22,185 --> 01:00:23,060 JIMMY MERCHANT: Yeah. 1276 01:00:23,060 --> 01:00:25,040 KENNY VANCE: But he was who he was then. 1277 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,640 (SINGING) Take me by the hand Tell me I 1278 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:34,500 your lover man We'll have fun, just we two You for me, 1279 01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,067 me for you. 1280 01:00:36,067 --> 01:00:37,900 WOMAN: Top of your profession, pretty young. 1281 01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:39,040 How old are you exactly? 1282 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:39,600 14. 1283 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,280 How long have you been at this? 1284 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,060 Oh, for about a year and a half. 1285 01:00:43,060 --> 01:00:44,860 Seems to us a pretty fabulous salary. 1286 01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:46,080 How do you spend it? 1287 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,440 Well, we get an allowance of $27 a week, 1288 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:54,680 and that's to do with, like, say, cab fare or hamburger, 1289 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,200 and-- 1290 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,060 what you want. 1291 01:00:56,060 --> 01:00:56,810 INTERVIEWER: Yeah. 1292 01:00:56,810 --> 01:00:57,520 You know, any-- 1293 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,880 INTERVIEWER: Have you got any particular weakness? 1294 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,720 Well, candy. 1295 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,760 Candy. 1296 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,640 INTERVIEWER: Candy? 1297 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:05,267 Yes. 1298 01:01:05,267 --> 01:01:07,100 KENNY VANCE: It was like he was a man child. 1299 01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:08,440 That's true. 1300 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,450 And when you hear "Out in the Cold Again," 1301 01:01:10,450 --> 01:01:15,550 especially that for me, the performance on it is like 1302 01:01:15,550 --> 01:01:19,530 of a person that had lived a lot of life. 1303 01:01:19,530 --> 01:01:20,990 JIMMY MERCHANT: Yes. 1304 01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:22,700 And he had not at that point. 1305 01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:28,470 (SINGING) Refrain, It's gone 1306 01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:34,110 And I'm left completely 1307 01:01:34,110 --> 01:01:39,190 Out in the cold again 1308 01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:42,550 JIMMY MERCHANT: When we arrived back in America, 1309 01:01:42,550 --> 01:01:44,790 it was all done. 1310 01:01:44,790 --> 01:01:47,870 Frankie said, I'm leaving. 1311 01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:49,250 That was basically it. 1312 01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:55,670 (SINGING) Just memories remain 1313 01:01:55,670 --> 01:02:00,430 I gaze at the ringless finger 1314 01:02:00,430 --> 01:02:05,390 That was messed up psychologically. 1315 01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:07,650 I couldn't believe. 1316 01:02:07,650 --> 01:02:11,090 KENNY VANCE: You guys went into outer space, then you came back, 1317 01:02:11,090 --> 01:02:13,190 and you sat on the stoop, and you wondered, like, 1318 01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:14,956 what happened. 1319 01:02:14,956 --> 01:02:16,810 It was over. 1320 01:02:16,810 --> 01:02:20,642 (SINGING) Again 1321 01:02:24,610 --> 01:02:27,610 This lady-- what's the name of that lady, Gloria or whatever? 1322 01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:30,650 She says, I want to make you a star. 1323 01:02:30,650 --> 01:02:32,270 And I'm going, you mean in the movies? 1324 01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:33,710 I don't know nothing about no movies. 1325 01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:35,252 She's going to make me in the movies. 1326 01:02:35,252 --> 01:02:37,490 And she's telling me all these people she deals with 1327 01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:40,530 and all this stuff, and I'm going, wow. 1328 01:02:40,530 --> 01:02:43,170 So I believe her. 1329 01:02:43,170 --> 01:02:44,150 I'm 20 years old. 1330 01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:44,930 I believe her. 1331 01:02:44,930 --> 01:02:47,490 So she pulls me away. 1332 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:49,525 The group breaks up. 1333 01:02:49,525 --> 01:02:51,150 SAMMY STRAIN: No, you broke up from us. 1334 01:02:51,150 --> 01:02:52,210 Yeah. 1335 01:02:52,210 --> 01:02:54,330 I just said goodbye. 1336 01:02:54,330 --> 01:02:58,430 And then, next thing know, it ain't what it was. 1337 01:02:58,430 --> 01:03:01,090 So I hit the bottom, wham. 1338 01:03:01,090 --> 01:03:04,930 No-- it's just no career, stopped short, done. 1339 01:03:04,930 --> 01:03:05,828 There's no wreckage. 1340 01:03:05,828 --> 01:03:06,620 There's no nothing. 1341 01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:09,120 And we are-- I'm there on the bottom, 1342 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,588 living in 407 Washington Avenue. 1343 01:03:12,588 --> 01:03:15,260 [LAUGHTER] 1344 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,720 There are rats in there, man. 1345 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,960 Here I am, no-- 1346 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,180 I ain't got no money, nowhere to go. 1347 01:03:23,180 --> 01:03:25,180 I mean, I'm in this rat-infested place. 1348 01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:28,640 I had to take a BB gun and shoot mice and rats 1349 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,940 to keep away from my son. 1350 01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:30,760 Right. 1351 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,720 ANTHONY GOURDINE: I mean, that's how low it got. 1352 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,300 I've been in and out of groups all my life, you know, 1353 01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:37,540 since I'm 13. 1354 01:03:37,540 --> 01:03:39,400 And it's always something. 1355 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:39,900 Oh, yeah. 1356 01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:40,120 Oh, yeah. 1357 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,120 It's always something. 1358 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,220 There's always one guy. 1359 01:03:42,220 --> 01:03:44,030 And if it's not one guy, it's another guy. 1360 01:03:44,030 --> 01:03:44,530 Yeah. 1361 01:03:44,530 --> 01:03:45,940 And it's the part of it. 1362 01:03:45,940 --> 01:03:46,540 But again-- 1363 01:03:46,540 --> 01:03:48,680 Or it's a wife, or it's a girlfriend, 1364 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,290 or it's somebody that's going to destroy the situation. 1365 01:03:51,290 --> 01:03:51,980 I know. 1366 01:03:51,980 --> 01:03:52,813 KENNY VANCE: I know. 1367 01:03:52,813 --> 01:03:55,840 The only thing that prevented us from taking it all away 1368 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,800 was the social problem within the group. 1369 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,040 The group was totally together and totally 1370 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,940 ready to do anything, but Shep would not stop drinking. 1371 01:04:04,940 --> 01:04:08,320 And the last time that we played, and I said to Shep-- 1372 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,120 I told myself. 1373 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,280 I said, Shep, if you don't stop drinking, 1374 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,940 I'm going to have to stop singing. 1375 01:04:13,940 --> 01:04:17,620 Because I cannot afford to go on stage, and you be sloppy, 1376 01:04:17,620 --> 01:04:19,748 and not be able to do what we're supposed to do. 1377 01:04:19,748 --> 01:04:20,540 KENNY VANCE: Right. 1378 01:04:20,540 --> 01:04:22,440 And he did it one more time at the Apollo, 1379 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,880 and that's when it all stopped. 1380 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,920 KENNY VANCE: The whole thing fell apart. 1381 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,480 The whole thing just-- we just stopped it. 1382 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,400 We just stopped. 1383 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,108 KENNY VANCE: It had to be a heartbreaker. 1384 01:04:29,108 --> 01:04:32,380 WALLY ROKER: It was a miserable, miserable, miserable decision 1385 01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:33,990 and a miserable, miserable time. 1386 01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:39,100 [THE HEARTBEATS, "ONE MILLION YEARS"] One million years too 1387 01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:41,940 late 1388 01:04:41,940 --> 01:04:49,700 What made you think that I would wait 1389 01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:54,500 You didn't write or call 1390 01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:57,380 Do, do, do, do, do 1391 01:04:57,380 --> 01:04:59,115 You didn't care 1392 01:04:59,115 --> 01:05:00,740 KENNY VANCE: When Jay and the Americans 1393 01:05:00,740 --> 01:05:04,490 was over, for different reasons-- 1394 01:05:04,490 --> 01:05:07,050 gambling, drugs, whatever, you know-- 1395 01:05:07,050 --> 01:05:08,319 WALLY ROKER: Yeah. 1396 01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:13,570 --interactions, social interactions, insanity, 1397 01:05:13,570 --> 01:05:15,770 because of the ride that we were on. 1398 01:05:15,770 --> 01:05:18,010 There's something about going on that stage 1399 01:05:18,010 --> 01:05:19,380 and getting that feeling. 1400 01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:21,330 WALLY ROKER: Knowing that people just 1401 01:05:21,330 --> 01:05:25,420 love what you're going to do and waiting for it. 1402 01:05:25,420 --> 01:05:26,170 KENNY VANCE: Yeah. 1403 01:05:26,170 --> 01:05:28,530 And when you hit it, and it hits right, 1404 01:05:28,530 --> 01:05:32,330 I mean, there's no bigger high in the world. 1405 01:05:32,330 --> 01:05:36,282 That's like being on drugs and everything, anything else 1406 01:05:36,282 --> 01:05:36,990 you can think of. 1407 01:05:36,990 --> 01:05:38,230 Because that was my high. 1408 01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:39,110 You can't buy that. 1409 01:05:39,110 --> 01:05:39,990 You can't pay for it. 1410 01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:40,410 No. 1411 01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:40,710 No. 1412 01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:42,377 WALLY ROKER: It's something that comes-- 1413 01:05:42,377 --> 01:05:43,150 comes to you. 1414 01:05:43,150 --> 01:05:45,670 You can't explain it to anybody what it is. 1415 01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:46,650 WALLY ROKER: No. 1416 01:05:46,650 --> 01:05:49,890 Do you want to sing "You Send Me?" 1417 01:05:49,890 --> 01:05:51,370 What the hell. 1418 01:05:51,370 --> 01:05:52,230 What the hell. 1419 01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:53,150 Oh, what the hell. 1420 01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:53,650 Come on. 1421 01:05:53,650 --> 01:05:54,330 Come on. 1422 01:05:54,330 --> 01:05:54,870 Come on. 1423 01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:56,090 Come on. 1424 01:05:56,090 --> 01:05:57,490 "You Send Me." 1425 01:05:57,490 --> 01:06:00,350 I wasn't planning this at all. 1426 01:06:00,350 --> 01:06:02,270 That's when it's the most fun. 1427 01:06:02,270 --> 01:06:03,320 That's when it's best. 1428 01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:12,310 (SINGING) Darling, you send me 1429 01:06:12,310 --> 01:06:20,470 Darling, you-- you send me, babe 1430 01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:26,950 Because you, oh, you send me babe 1431 01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:29,870 All that you do 1432 01:06:29,870 --> 01:06:35,670 Hey, hey, yeah 1433 01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:43,390 You, you, you, you, you, you thrill me 1434 01:06:43,390 --> 01:06:51,230 I think you know that you thrill me 1435 01:06:51,230 --> 01:06:55,990 You thrill me 1436 01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:57,970 Honest, you do 1437 01:06:57,970 --> 01:07:02,530 Yeah, yes, you do. 1438 01:07:02,530 --> 01:07:07,620 At first I thought it was infatuation 1439 01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:11,310 I was so Infatuated by you 1440 01:07:11,310 --> 01:07:16,646 But it's lasted so long 1441 01:07:16,646 --> 01:07:18,600 You know it has 1442 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:28,600 Now I've found myself wanting to marry and take you home 1443 01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:29,130 Hey! 1444 01:07:36,250 --> 01:07:45,650 Honey, you, you, you, you 1445 01:07:45,650 --> 01:07:52,170 Baby, baby, baby, you're so fine 1446 01:07:52,170 --> 01:07:54,290 All that you do 1447 01:07:54,290 --> 01:07:56,960 Yes, you do 1448 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,400 Let's hear it for Phoebe Snow. 1449 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,240 [APPLAUSE] 1450 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:10,480 Phoebe Snow. 1451 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,472 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1452 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,399 Thank you. 1453 01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:29,560 (SINGING) Oh, Gloria 1454 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,872 It's not Marie 1455 01:08:32,872 --> 01:08:36,800 It's Gloria 1456 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,159 It's not Sheri 1457 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:43,047 It Gloria 1458 01:08:43,047 --> 01:08:52,120 And she's not in love with me 1459 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,120 You know, the music business has been good to me 1460 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,420 in a certain way, but this is basically what I got. 1461 01:08:58,420 --> 01:09:02,300 This one is probably the last Jay and the Americans album, 1462 01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:05,020 which was 1970 about-- 1463 01:09:05,020 --> 01:09:08,100 maybe '71, was the end of it. 1464 01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:14,169 And this one was '60. 1465 01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:20,620 I look about five. 1466 01:09:20,620 --> 01:09:21,370 MAN: Nice haircut. 1467 01:09:21,370 --> 01:09:22,078 MAN: Yeah, right. 1468 01:09:22,078 --> 01:09:23,000 It was 12 years. 1469 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,020 It was a 12-year trip. 1470 01:09:25,020 --> 01:09:26,024 MAN: A lot of hits. 1471 01:09:26,024 --> 01:09:27,399 KENNY VANCE: Yeah, a lot of hits. 1472 01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:28,513 MAN: A lot of hits. 1473 01:09:28,513 --> 01:09:30,338 MAN: Ah, is that beautiful. 1474 01:09:30,338 --> 01:09:30,880 Look at that. 1475 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,297 KENNY VANCE: This was after drugs. 1476 01:09:32,297 --> 01:09:33,340 This was before. 1477 01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:34,899 Before. 1478 01:09:34,899 --> 01:09:35,600 Before drugs. 1479 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,576 [LAUGHTER] 1480 01:09:38,576 --> 01:09:41,552 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1481 01:09:44,032 --> 01:09:46,939 (SINGING) Come a little bit closer 1482 01:09:46,939 --> 01:09:48,300 I'm all alone 1483 01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:53,117 And the night is so long 1484 01:09:53,117 --> 01:10:00,260 I was out testing my own [INAUDIBLE] last night 1485 01:10:00,260 --> 01:10:02,510 And I just couldn't resist that moment 1486 01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:07,970 I get so excited 1487 01:10:07,970 --> 01:10:15,490 And I heard [INAUDIBLE] say that was on his way 1488 01:10:15,490 --> 01:10:17,470 And I knew, yes I knew 1489 01:10:17,470 --> 01:10:21,454 [THE CHANTELS, "HE'S GONE"] Gone 1490 01:10:21,454 --> 01:10:24,940 [VOCALIZING] 1491 01:10:31,912 --> 01:10:37,490 He's gone 1492 01:10:37,490 --> 01:10:39,210 I don't know where 1493 01:10:39,210 --> 01:10:41,450 ARLENE SMITH: They stopped promoting us. 1494 01:10:41,450 --> 01:10:42,740 KENNY VANCE: Right. 1495 01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:44,150 That's where the pain is. 1496 01:10:44,150 --> 01:10:47,705 I still get a little ugh when I talk about it. 1497 01:10:47,705 --> 01:10:49,330 While you're going through it, you just 1498 01:10:49,330 --> 01:10:51,430 notice yourself slowing down. 1499 01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:54,570 You don't really realize that if you want to continue to sing, 1500 01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:58,842 you're going to have to do some other things to keep that going. 1501 01:10:58,842 --> 01:11:00,550 And yet, I didn't really know what to do. 1502 01:11:00,550 --> 01:11:06,790 Because even with the voice, and all of this stuff, and people 1503 01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:10,390 envying, my self-esteem was down to zero. 1504 01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:14,110 (SINGING) Gone, gone, gone 1505 01:11:14,110 --> 01:11:15,210 And I kept trying. 1506 01:11:15,210 --> 01:11:16,110 I kept trying. 1507 01:11:16,110 --> 01:11:17,160 Nobody tried harder. 1508 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:23,306 (SINGING) Gone 1509 01:11:23,306 --> 01:11:26,722 [FRANKIE LYMON, "I'M SORRY"] 1510 01:11:30,150 --> 01:11:32,450 (SINGING) I can feel the sadness in your voice 1511 01:11:32,450 --> 01:11:36,270 when you say we're through, yeah 1512 01:11:36,270 --> 01:11:38,930 I just get you had no other choice 1513 01:11:38,930 --> 01:11:41,310 What else can you do, yeah? 1514 01:11:41,310 --> 01:11:45,470 ARTIE RIPP: Frankie Lymon, he's got this incredible tenor 1515 01:11:45,470 --> 01:11:48,270 soprano voice. 1516 01:11:48,270 --> 01:11:52,180 Now, what happens once puberty sets in? 1517 01:11:52,180 --> 01:11:55,200 (SINGING) I could never love another like I do this way 1518 01:11:55,200 --> 01:12:02,000 Still terrific, terrific singer, OK, but no longer that young, 1519 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,660 vibrant, kick-ass artist. 1520 01:12:05,660 --> 01:12:09,020 And nobody wanted to touch him. 1521 01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:10,480 (SINGING) Hey hey, can you hear me? 1522 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:11,940 I'm so sorry 1523 01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:14,600 Hey, hey, pretty baby, I'm so sorry 1524 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,140 JIMMY MERCHANT: You know, we played with Frankie Lymon. 1525 01:12:17,140 --> 01:12:19,627 He was around 27 years old. 1526 01:12:19,627 --> 01:12:20,460 KENNY VANCE: Really? 1527 01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:22,605 I didn't think he made it that far. 1528 01:12:22,605 --> 01:12:24,480 JIMMY MERCHANT: It was a year before he died. 1529 01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:25,147 KENNY VANCE: 28. 1530 01:12:25,147 --> 01:12:26,290 OK. 1531 01:12:26,290 --> 01:12:30,120 Did you run into him again after that over the years? 1532 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,300 Yeah, a couple times. 1533 01:12:31,300 --> 01:12:32,800 KENNY VANCE: Only a couple of times. 1534 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,220 Only a couple. 1535 01:12:33,220 --> 01:12:35,020 KENNY VANCE: You were so pissed off at him. 1536 01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:37,040 I was pissed off in the early years. 1537 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:37,790 Yeah, absolutely. 1538 01:12:37,790 --> 01:12:38,540 KENNY VANCE: Sure. 1539 01:12:38,540 --> 01:12:39,220 Oh, yeah. 1540 01:12:39,220 --> 01:12:41,000 So we're sitting in the dressing room, 1541 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:48,560 and this guy walks in with no teeth and, like, a beaten guy. 1542 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,860 This is Frankie Lymon. 1543 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,160 And he put this tuxedo on, and he 1544 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,200 put these tap dancing shoes on. 1545 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,600 It was like he was trying to be Sammy Davis 1546 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,048 or whatever he thought. 1547 01:13:01,048 --> 01:13:02,840 JIMMY MERCHANT: He was trying to get a gig. 1548 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,280 You know, the promoting and the management, 1549 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,630 they've got one thing in mind. 1550 01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:08,255 KENNY VANCE: Yeah. 1551 01:13:08,255 --> 01:13:10,720 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): It was just heartbreaking. 1552 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,120 I just wanted to give him a hug and tell him 1553 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,300 how much I loved him. 1554 01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:17,000 (SINGING) I could never love another like I do this way 1555 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,960 And I love you the rest of my days 1556 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,080 I'm sorry 1557 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,160 I'm sorry 1558 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,180 It's about the gig. 1559 01:13:27,180 --> 01:13:28,540 It's about being at the gig. 1560 01:13:28,540 --> 01:13:30,160 There is nothing outside of the gig 1561 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,567 that is important except being at the gig. 1562 01:13:33,567 --> 01:13:35,900 And when that light comes on, and you hear that music, 1563 01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:36,400 that's it. 1564 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,520 No matter how bad you feel, it's showtime. 1565 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,040 And there's a joke about this. 1566 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,872 This guy got this job with the circus. 1567 01:13:41,872 --> 01:13:43,580 And there was this old guy at the circus. 1568 01:13:43,580 --> 01:13:46,950 He was following the elephants, shoveling elephant dung. 1569 01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:48,232 He would complain every day. 1570 01:13:48,232 --> 01:13:50,190 So the guy said, this guy didn't like this job. 1571 01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:54,030 So after about a week, the guy said, man, you 1572 01:13:54,030 --> 01:13:56,450 shovel elephant dung, and you complain all day long, 1573 01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:58,930 but every day, you get up, and you do it. 1574 01:13:58,930 --> 01:14:00,210 He said, why don't you quit? 1575 01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:01,918 He said, what, and give up show business? 1576 01:14:01,918 --> 01:14:04,976 [LAUGHTER] 1577 01:14:08,792 --> 01:14:10,750 KENNY VANCE: I went to see you in Florida once. 1578 01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:13,850 You were playing at the Seven Seas Lounge maybe? 1579 01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:15,210 Yeah, the Seven Seas Lounge. 1580 01:14:15,210 --> 01:14:16,490 It was in the '70s. 1581 01:14:16,490 --> 01:14:16,990 Yeah. 1582 01:14:16,990 --> 01:14:18,330 And you were not happy. 1583 01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:19,430 No. 1584 01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:20,123 I had this band. 1585 01:14:20,123 --> 01:14:21,290 I had three different bands. 1586 01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:21,950 I said, what's happening? 1587 01:14:21,950 --> 01:14:22,590 You go yeah. 1588 01:14:22,590 --> 01:14:24,070 And it was like-- 1589 01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:25,190 It was-- 1590 01:14:25,190 --> 01:14:27,190 I couldn't find anybody to-- 1591 01:14:27,190 --> 01:14:28,623 to be with me. 1592 01:14:28,623 --> 01:14:30,290 The people we brought in were very good, 1593 01:14:30,290 --> 01:14:32,210 but they weren't earnest. 1594 01:14:32,210 --> 01:14:33,790 It wasn't Sammy. 1595 01:14:33,790 --> 01:14:37,203 Because no one could make that sound. 1596 01:14:37,203 --> 01:14:38,870 SAMMY STRAIN: The reason why we could do 1597 01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:41,010 that was because we lived it. 1598 01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:44,370 And in those other people, the spirit did not live. 1599 01:14:44,370 --> 01:14:46,810 The spirit only lives within us. 1600 01:14:46,810 --> 01:14:52,130 So when we sing it collectively, it's the same thing. 1601 01:14:52,130 --> 01:14:53,570 That's what it is. 1602 01:14:53,570 --> 01:14:58,570 (SINGING) There's just two kinds of people-- 1603 01:14:58,570 --> 01:15:00,470 Just two kinds of people in the-- 1604 01:15:03,577 --> 01:15:04,410 [INTERPOSING VOICES] 1605 01:15:04,410 --> 01:15:06,170 You got the melody. 1606 01:15:06,170 --> 01:15:07,030 Do the melody. 1607 01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:07,530 You do it. 1608 01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:10,010 (SINGING) Just two kinds of people in my world 1609 01:15:10,010 --> 01:15:18,450 There's just two kinds of people in the world 1610 01:15:18,450 --> 01:15:25,890 Why can't we fall in love 1611 01:15:25,890 --> 01:15:33,210 Just two kinds of people in the world 1612 01:15:33,210 --> 01:15:39,570 They are a boy and girl 1613 01:15:39,570 --> 01:15:46,680 Just two kinds of people in the world 1614 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:56,680 Why can't we fall in love, love, love, love 1615 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:05,600 Love 1616 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,350 SAMMY STRAIN; This is just called hanging. 1617 01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:09,638 [LAUGHTER] 1618 01:16:09,638 --> 01:16:11,680 ARLENE SMITH: We were beginning to get royalties. 1619 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,020 Yeah. 1620 01:16:12,020 --> 01:16:14,312 KENNY VANCE: Do you get writing credits for that stuff? 1621 01:16:14,312 --> 01:16:17,200 ARLENE SMITH: No, they've been taking away slowly but surely. 1622 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:18,283 KENNY VANCE: From "Maybe"? 1623 01:16:18,283 --> 01:16:19,075 ARLENE SMITH: Yeah. 1624 01:16:19,075 --> 01:16:19,580 Yeah. 1625 01:16:19,580 --> 01:16:20,400 It's been claimed. 1626 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,100 And I can't fight it. 1627 01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:24,800 I'm not going to fight it. 1628 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,628 If I hadn't been a child, maybe I could have said something. 1629 01:16:27,628 --> 01:16:29,420 Because there were a few people-- you know, 1630 01:16:29,420 --> 01:16:31,480 kids can read you-- 1631 01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:33,140 that I saw that didn't look right. 1632 01:16:33,140 --> 01:16:35,720 But I could never say it, because I'm still into Mr. 1633 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:36,640 So-and-so, Mr.-- 1634 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:37,760 you know what I mean? 1635 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,540 So you didn't dare say anything about an adult-- 1636 01:16:42,540 --> 01:16:47,260 a child's trust in you, and you're betraying that trust. 1637 01:16:47,260 --> 01:16:50,740 ARLENE SMITH: George spent millions gambling, 1638 01:16:50,740 --> 01:16:54,980 and he found a way to blow Gone and End Records the same way 1639 01:16:54,980 --> 01:17:01,390 as he found a way to lose Rama, Tico, and G Records. 1640 01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:08,260 You got it, you lost it. 1641 01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:10,020 How did you lose it? 1642 01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:11,580 You blew it. 1643 01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:13,580 Nobody took it away from you. 1644 01:17:13,580 --> 01:17:14,490 You threw it away. 1645 01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:20,900 [THE DUBS, "DON'T ASK ME TO BE LONELY"] Ask me for the world 1646 01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:24,540 It doesn't seem much 1647 01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:28,460 ARTIE RIPP: And when he left Gee and Rama, 1648 01:17:28,460 --> 01:17:31,100 the whole vibe changed, because now Morris Levy 1649 01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:34,100 owned the company. 1650 01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:41,130 Morris was in the $1 for you, $1 for me, $1 for you, $2 for me, 1651 01:17:41,130 --> 01:17:43,430 $1 for you, $3 for me. 1652 01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:44,850 (SINGING) To be lonely 1653 01:17:44,850 --> 01:17:48,152 Don't ask me to be lonely 1654 01:17:48,152 --> 01:17:49,610 CLEVELAND STILL: How would you like 1655 01:17:49,610 --> 01:17:51,990 to look at a gold record with your name on it 1656 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:54,610 and not get paid for it? 1657 01:17:54,610 --> 01:17:58,290 I saw it under the desk with our name on it, 1658 01:17:58,290 --> 01:18:00,150 but we never got recognition for it. 1659 01:18:03,410 --> 01:18:05,650 From then on, I knew that I was getting beat. 1660 01:18:05,650 --> 01:18:10,330 It's just a question of how bad, you know? 1661 01:18:10,330 --> 01:18:13,050 We got it from our manager also. 1662 01:18:13,050 --> 01:18:17,710 His lawyer drew up papers, and when we went back, 1663 01:18:17,710 --> 01:18:20,410 the small print that we didn't read, 1664 01:18:20,410 --> 01:18:23,130 we had signed our rights over to him also. 1665 01:18:23,130 --> 01:18:24,470 The same thing happened to me. 1666 01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:26,530 You know, we walked in there. 1667 01:18:26,530 --> 01:18:28,110 We just wanted to do it. 1668 01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:30,530 We just wanted to make a record. 1669 01:18:30,530 --> 01:18:32,630 That was all that was on our minds. 1670 01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:34,610 I have to admit that. 1671 01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:37,510 And then, later on when it sold, someone 1672 01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:39,250 says, well, how much did you make? 1673 01:18:39,250 --> 01:18:42,110 And we go, well, we didn't really make anything. 1674 01:18:42,110 --> 01:18:43,950 Well, and they said, what are you, an idiot? 1675 01:18:43,950 --> 01:18:45,670 And I go, well-- 1676 01:18:45,670 --> 01:18:47,147 and then I felt like an idiot. 1677 01:18:47,147 --> 01:18:48,230 CLEVELAND STILL: It hurts. 1678 01:18:48,230 --> 01:18:49,510 KENNY VANCE: And it hurts. 1679 01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:50,910 We didn't have a lawyer. 1680 01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:52,630 CLEVELAND STILL: Nope. 1681 01:18:52,630 --> 01:18:53,610 They had the lawyer. 1682 01:18:53,610 --> 01:18:54,790 They had the lawyer. 1683 01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:59,270 We were kids, and if a man with a suit on in an office 1684 01:18:59,270 --> 01:19:01,010 told you to sign a paper-- 1685 01:19:01,010 --> 01:19:01,390 CLEVELAND STILL: You signed. 1686 01:19:01,390 --> 01:19:02,290 --you just did it. 1687 01:19:02,290 --> 01:19:03,070 You thought he's-- 1688 01:19:03,070 --> 01:19:03,330 CLEVELAND STILL: Right. 1689 01:19:03,330 --> 01:19:04,320 --he knows what's happening. 1690 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,237 CLEVELAND STILL: Yeah. 1691 01:19:05,237 --> 01:19:07,270 So you just sign. 1692 01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:08,290 I really wanted-- 1693 01:19:08,290 --> 01:19:10,682 I wanted to murder this guy, you know? 1694 01:19:10,682 --> 01:19:17,670 So, I mean, I never really laughed about it until you 1695 01:19:17,670 --> 01:19:19,330 and I are talking about it. 1696 01:19:19,330 --> 01:19:20,570 I'm telling you the truth. 1697 01:19:20,570 --> 01:19:21,070 Yeah. 1698 01:19:21,070 --> 01:19:22,690 I never really laughed about it. 1699 01:19:22,690 --> 01:19:24,550 Why are you still doing it? 1700 01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:26,230 Because I love to sing. 1701 01:19:26,230 --> 01:19:28,190 Isn't that wild? 1702 01:19:28,190 --> 01:19:32,030 I love to look out in the audience, you know? 1703 01:19:32,030 --> 01:19:34,090 And you can't see but so far, you know that? 1704 01:19:34,090 --> 01:19:35,840 But you can look out there and see people. 1705 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:36,150 JAY TRAYNOR: You feel it, though. 1706 01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:37,317 You can feel it, you know? 1707 01:19:37,317 --> 01:19:40,230 You look out there, and you see people enjoying themselves. 1708 01:19:40,230 --> 01:19:42,580 You say, wow, I make people feel like this, you know? 1709 01:19:42,580 --> 01:19:45,970 I want to be able to do this, you know, and capture a crowd, 1710 01:19:45,970 --> 01:19:48,580 and have them right there, right on the end of their seat. 1711 01:19:48,580 --> 01:19:52,646 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1712 01:19:54,943 --> 01:19:56,110 And I said, you know what? 1713 01:19:56,110 --> 01:19:57,790 I can't stand this [BLEEP] anymore. 1714 01:19:57,790 --> 01:20:00,850 These [BLEEP] people are the worst. 1715 01:20:00,850 --> 01:20:01,690 I couldn't take it. 1716 01:20:01,690 --> 01:20:04,510 Because, like you, you put your whole life into it. 1717 01:20:04,510 --> 01:20:05,790 You don't know anything else. 1718 01:20:05,790 --> 01:20:09,670 And you're doing it since you're 13, 14 years old. 1719 01:20:09,670 --> 01:20:13,410 So it comes from the purest place inside of you. 1720 01:20:13,410 --> 01:20:16,090 I felt that many, many, many, many, times. 1721 01:20:16,090 --> 01:20:16,590 Right. 1722 01:20:16,590 --> 01:20:18,590 WALLY ROKER: There's nobody can understand that. 1723 01:20:18,590 --> 01:20:20,930 What you have to do is to cover it up. 1724 01:20:20,930 --> 01:20:23,750 If you don't cover it up, they will tear it up. 1725 01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:24,250 Yeah. 1726 01:20:24,250 --> 01:20:28,690 So I just covered mine up and just kept it safe. 1727 01:20:28,690 --> 01:20:30,610 If I'm going to go sing now, I've 1728 01:20:30,610 --> 01:20:32,890 got to bring that part with me. 1729 01:20:32,890 --> 01:20:35,980 If I don't bring that part with me, it's not going to work. 1730 01:20:35,980 --> 01:20:39,240 Or, like, some older person, how could you be-- how 1731 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:40,420 could you act like that? 1732 01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:44,320 WALLY ROKER: The situation is that people that's never had it, 1733 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,580 they don't know what it is. 1734 01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:47,860 So there's no way for them to miss it. 1735 01:20:47,860 --> 01:20:49,400 See, but they don't. 1736 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:53,200 90% of the people in the world don't even-- can't even imagine 1737 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,160 what that feeling is. 1738 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,332 [CHATTER] 1739 01:20:56,332 --> 01:20:57,040 MAN: How are you? 1740 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,498 I don't know if he's coming or not. 1741 01:20:58,498 --> 01:20:59,424 I hope he is. 1742 01:20:59,424 --> 01:21:02,240 [CHATTER] 1743 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:07,610 MAN: You had a rehearsal. 1744 01:21:07,610 --> 01:21:09,788 [CHATTER] 1745 01:21:11,173 --> 01:21:12,340 Kenny, I know you're eating. 1746 01:21:12,340 --> 01:21:13,420 I don't want to disturb you. 1747 01:21:13,420 --> 01:21:15,337 Joe [INAUDIBLE], I met him at the Bottom Line, 1748 01:21:15,337 --> 01:21:16,220 Lou Christie show. 1749 01:21:16,220 --> 01:21:16,820 Yeah, yeah. 1750 01:21:16,820 --> 01:21:18,612 MAN: And I'm a friend of Vinnie Vela, Jr.-- 1751 01:21:18,612 --> 01:21:21,240 was in the movie with you, "Looking for an Echo." 1752 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:22,920 And we're putting a production together 1753 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,020 for television with Don K. Read and everybody. 1754 01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:25,400 KENNY VANCE: Oh, great. 1755 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,740 I would like to have you as my first guest on the show, 1756 01:21:27,740 --> 01:21:28,460 believe it or not. 1757 01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:29,418 KENNY VANCE: All right. 1758 01:21:29,418 --> 01:21:32,300 We're in negotiations right now with lawyers and whatnot. 1759 01:21:32,300 --> 01:21:33,820 As soon as it kicks off the ground, 1760 01:21:33,820 --> 01:21:35,580 we'll definitely get in touch with you. 1761 01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:36,780 And if you're available, we'd like 1762 01:21:36,780 --> 01:21:37,800 to have you on the first show. 1763 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,080 OK, what kind of show is it? 1764 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,100 It's called-- well, I don't want to reveal a lot of it, 1765 01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:43,440 because it's not legalized yet, if you know what I mean, 1766 01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:44,760 with copyrights and everything. 1767 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,040 And years ago, I gave out too much information, 1768 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,820 and people stole my ideas, if you know what I mean. 1769 01:21:49,820 --> 01:21:51,120 OK, we're in, man. 1770 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,580 Yes, definitely a cappella. 1771 01:21:52,580 --> 01:21:53,520 Definitely a cappella. 1772 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:53,900 KENNY VANCE: OK, buddy. 1773 01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:54,840 And it's going to cook. 1774 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:55,220 KENNY VANCE: Great. 1775 01:21:55,220 --> 01:21:55,840 Thank you. 1776 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:56,507 KENNY VANCE: OK. 1777 01:21:56,507 --> 01:21:58,552 [CHATTER] 1778 01:22:00,398 --> 01:22:01,440 MAN: It's gonna be great. 1779 01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:02,160 MAN: It's gonna be great. 1780 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:02,880 MAN: It's gonna be great. 1781 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,088 MAN: If you know what I mean. 1782 01:22:04,088 --> 01:22:05,812 MAN: I'm sure you understand. 1783 01:22:05,812 --> 01:22:06,770 MAN: For legal reasons. 1784 01:22:10,066 --> 01:22:13,503 [DIXIE HUMMINGBIRDS, "LOVE ME LIKE A ROCK"] 1785 01:22:13,503 --> 01:22:16,449 [VOCALIZING] 1786 01:22:23,340 --> 01:22:25,690 (SINGING) When I was a little boy 1787 01:22:25,690 --> 01:22:27,340 When I was a boy 1788 01:22:27,340 --> 01:22:29,610 Devil would call my name 1789 01:22:29,610 --> 01:22:30,770 When I was a boy 1790 01:22:30,770 --> 01:22:33,410 I'd say, who do 1791 01:22:33,410 --> 01:22:37,330 Who do you think you're fooling? 1792 01:22:37,330 --> 01:22:39,090 I'm a consecrated boy 1793 01:22:39,090 --> 01:22:41,450 When I was a boy 1794 01:22:41,450 --> 01:22:44,530 Sang in the Sunday choir 1795 01:22:44,530 --> 01:22:47,130 Mama loved me 1796 01:22:47,130 --> 01:22:48,770 She loved me 1797 01:22:48,770 --> 01:22:52,170 She'd get down on my knees and hug me 1798 01:22:52,170 --> 01:22:56,610 She loved me like a rock 1799 01:22:56,610 --> 01:22:59,010 Rock like a rock of ages 1800 01:22:59,010 --> 01:23:01,450 Love me 1801 01:23:01,450 --> 01:23:04,930 Love me, love me, love me, love me 1802 01:23:04,930 --> 01:23:06,830 I was grown to be a man 1803 01:23:06,830 --> 01:23:08,770 Grown to be a man 1804 01:23:08,770 --> 01:23:10,710 Never would call my name 1805 01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:12,290 Grown to be a man 1806 01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:18,770 Say now, who do, who do you think you're fooling? 1807 01:23:18,770 --> 01:23:20,880 I'm a consecrated man 1808 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,978 Grown to be a man 1809 01:23:22,978 --> 01:23:28,630 [INAUDIBLE] my mama loved me 1810 01:23:28,630 --> 01:23:30,430 She loved me 1811 01:23:30,430 --> 01:23:33,670 Get down on her knees and hug me 1812 01:23:33,670 --> 01:23:37,070 She loved me like a rock 1813 01:23:37,070 --> 01:23:38,070 Oh, yeah 1814 01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:40,430 Rock me like the rock of ages 1815 01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:42,030 Love me 1816 01:23:42,030 --> 01:23:46,110 She love me, love me, love me, love me 1817 01:23:46,110 --> 01:23:49,590 She loved me, loved me, loved me, loved me 1818 01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:51,530 If I was a president 1819 01:23:51,530 --> 01:23:53,670 Was the president 1820 01:23:53,670 --> 01:23:57,750 Congress would call my name 1821 01:23:57,750 --> 01:24:03,110 (SINGING) Since my baby told me that she loved me 1822 01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:04,290 I'm all right 1823 01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:05,336 I'm all 1824 01:24:05,336 --> 01:24:06,450 All right 1825 01:24:06,450 --> 01:24:08,198 I'm all right 1826 01:24:08,198 --> 01:24:10,670 She told me that she loved me 1827 01:24:10,670 --> 01:24:13,830 Told me that she cared 1828 01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:16,310 When she said she loved me 1829 01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:18,950 Made me feel like a millionaire 1830 01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:21,350 (SINGING) Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick 1831 01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:22,450 Dad's eating dinner 1832 01:24:22,450 --> 01:24:24,030 The dog's got his bone 1833 01:24:24,030 --> 01:24:25,765 [INAUDIBLE] 1834 01:24:25,765 --> 01:24:28,740 Mom's at the table preparing the food 1835 01:24:28,740 --> 01:24:30,550 Everybody's in a very good mood 1836 01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:33,020 Singing Nickelodeon 1837 01:24:33,020 --> 01:24:35,380 Nickelodeon 1838 01:24:35,380 --> 01:24:37,700 Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick 1839 01:24:37,700 --> 01:24:40,208 Nickelodeon 1840 01:24:40,208 --> 01:24:43,666 [APPLAUSE] 1841 01:24:43,666 --> 01:24:48,112 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1842 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,860 I feel very humble, because I was hanging 1843 01:25:00,860 --> 01:25:04,293 in the subway with my friends, and we'd be singing your songs-- 1844 01:25:04,293 --> 01:25:05,460 all of your songs, you know? 1845 01:25:05,460 --> 01:25:06,980 So I feel very humbled tonight. 1846 01:25:06,980 --> 01:25:11,100 And, Arlene, my first love affair was "Maybe"-- 1847 01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:13,460 my first girl, my first crush ever-- 1848 01:25:13,460 --> 01:25:13,960 "Maybe." 1849 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:14,460 "Maybe." 1850 01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:16,420 [APPLAUSE] 1851 01:25:16,420 --> 01:25:20,300 [CAMERAS SHUTTERING] 1852 01:25:20,300 --> 01:25:25,120 MODERATOR: [INAUDIBLE] call Arlene Smith, Renee [INAUDIBLE] 1853 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,393 and so we join this, the original Chantels. 1854 01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:39,680 (SINGING) Maybe if I pray every night 1855 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:45,160 You'll come back to me 1856 01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:53,480 And maybe if I cry every day 1857 01:25:53,480 --> 01:25:58,600 You'll come back to stay 1858 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,834 Oh, maybe 1859 01:26:01,834 --> 01:26:07,191 [CROWD CHEERING] 1860 01:26:07,191 --> 01:26:15,520 (SINGING) Maybe if I hold your hand 1861 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:21,400 You will understand 1862 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,852 And maybe 1863 01:26:23,852 --> 01:26:25,310 KENNY VANCE (VOICEOVER): This music 1864 01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:30,870 is the foundation of American pop culture, the spirit of rock 1865 01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:35,608 and roll, where it all began. 1866 01:26:35,608 --> 01:26:38,404 (SINGING) Oh, maybe 1867 01:26:38,404 --> 01:26:42,166 Maybe, maybe, maybe 1868 01:26:42,166 --> 01:26:44,866 Oh, baby 1869 01:26:44,866 --> 01:26:50,510 Baby, baby, baby 1870 01:26:50,510 --> 01:26:51,430 Baby 1871 01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:52,830 Baby. 1872 01:26:52,830 --> 01:26:57,470 Baby baby 1873 01:26:57,470 --> 01:26:58,390 Baby 1874 01:26:58,390 --> 01:27:04,270 Baby, baby, baby 1875 01:27:04,270 --> 01:27:06,270 Maybe 1876 01:27:06,270 --> 01:27:10,910 Maybe, maybe, maybe 1877 01:27:10,910 --> 01:27:13,470 I wonder why I love you like I do 1878 01:27:13,470 --> 01:27:17,290 I wonder why I love you like I do 1879 01:27:17,290 --> 01:27:20,260 [VOCALIZING] 1880 01:27:25,730 --> 01:27:29,850 Well, I wonder why I love you like I do so much 1881 01:27:29,850 --> 01:27:31,650 Oh, but I crave your love 1882 01:27:31,650 --> 01:27:34,450 Yes, and I wonder why 1883 01:27:34,450 --> 01:27:35,850 Wonder why 1884 01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:38,730 Well, remember the night you told me 1885 01:27:38,730 --> 01:27:41,890 No other arms could hold me 1886 01:27:41,890 --> 01:27:43,650 Yes, I love you 1887 01:27:43,650 --> 01:27:46,230 And I place, I place, I place no one above you 1888 01:27:46,230 --> 01:27:50,250 Now I wonder why I love you like I do so much 1889 01:27:50,250 --> 01:27:52,480 Oh, but I crave your love 1890 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:54,810 Yes, then I wonder why 1891 01:27:54,810 --> 01:27:56,490 Wonder why 1892 01:27:56,490 --> 01:27:59,130 I wonder why I love you 1893 01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:01,210 I wonder why I do 1894 01:28:01,210 --> 01:28:04,050 I wonder why I need you 1895 01:28:04,050 --> 01:28:05,430 I love you, I need you 1896 01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:06,450 Oh, oh, oh 1897 01:28:06,450 --> 01:28:10,650 Still I wonder why I love you like I do so much 1898 01:28:10,650 --> 01:28:12,410 Oh, but I crave your love 1899 01:28:12,410 --> 01:28:15,210 Yes, then wonder why 1900 01:28:15,210 --> 01:28:16,190 Wonder why 1901 01:28:16,190 --> 01:28:22,178 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1902 01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:50,160 (SINGING) I remember the night you told me 1903 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,400 No other arms could hold me 1904 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,040 Yes, I love you 1905 01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,780 And I place, I place, I place no one above you 1906 01:28:57,780 --> 01:29:01,840 Now I wonder why I love you like I do so much 1907 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,360 Oh, but I pray for your love 1908 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,360 Yes and I wonder why 1909 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,240 Wonder why 1910 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:17,010 I wonder why